Recommend me Games with Good quest design, Good itemization and Good build systems

[Ryan muller]

I want recommendations of something cool to play, wont even ask for good combat, because not even most of the codex top 10 have decent combat, however i want to play something with those 3 done right.

Examples of itemization i like: Kotor 1, Bg1, Fallout 2 (1 is a bit limited, but cool too), Age of decadence.

Examples of quest design i enjoyed: Fallout 1/2, The witcher 3 (mostly the contracts) and Disco elysium.

Examples of build systems i love: Fallout 1/2, Age of decadence (althought a bit limited) and Underrail.

Preferable if the game doesnt have crafting systems, quests are atleast a bit intertwined with the main tasks and Build systems have satisfying progression instead of "1 point per level" BS.

Bonus points if its a post 2000's game

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Realms of Arkania HD

 

[Darth Roxor]

ELEX

 

[Ryan muller]

ELEX

i have the game here, how is the itemization compared to risen and the OG gothics?

also, is build system really good tho? i heard you can max everything out quite easily

 

[CryptRat]

Have you tried Stygian: Reign of the Old Ones? It fits your criteria including combat not being good, it's also probably still quite bugged.

 

[Ryan muller]

Have you tried Stygian: Reign of the Old Ones? It fits your criteria including combat not being good, it's also probably still quite bugged.

Nop, althought ive heard about it, just never checked it out

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

Have you tried Stygian: Reign of the Old Ones? It fits your criteria including combat not being good, it's also probably still quite bugged.

Rather cruel to suggest Stygian: Reign of the Old Ones in response to a request for "something cool to play".

 

[Kev Inkline]

Minecraft checks all the boxes

 

[Lord_Potato]

Kingdom Come: Deliverance:
- brilliant quest design,
- possibility to build your character in several meaningful ways in a classless system,
- decent itemization, you have to go out of your way to break it (though it is certainly possible).

It has some crafting though, at least if you want to save game (there is a mod that allows to save anywhere without a crafted resource).

 

[Ryan muller]

Kingdom Come: Deliverance:
- brilliant quest design,
- possibility to build your character in several meaningful ways in a classless system,
- decent itemization, you have to go out of your way to break it (though it is certainly possible).

I already played the living hell of KGD, althought i agree its brilliant in a lot of ways, i found some quests rather restrictive and itemization althought good, has its flaws, specially due to how easy is to break the game's economy once you get even remotely decent at fighting and then buy pretty much every geat youll ever need.

Its a good game tho, solid in a bunch of ways.

 

[AdolfSatan]

KOTC1, Hearkenwold for KOTC2, Prelude to Darkness

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

ADOM is pretty good in those parts.

Spoiler

Monster spawning is the infuriating part.

 

[Baron Tahn]

Battle Brothers? I dunno I never know what people mean when they say itemisation.

 

[Cael]

Fallout Tactics.

Spoiler

 

[Reinhardt]

Have you tried Stygian: Reign of the Old Ones? It fits your criteria including combat not being good, it's also probably still quite bugged.

Rather cruel to suggest Stygian: Reign of the Old Ones in response to a request for "something cool to play".

nigga liked disco furry. nothing wrong with being cruel to him.

 

[deuxhero]

Unironicly Fallout: New Vegas. Sawyer's choice to avoid new weapons being strictly better than the ones directly below them and the existence of perks like Grunt/Cowboy and Handloader makes the itemization just work, instead of being a treadmill, by making it so that some builds or playstyles will actually prefer "lower tier" weapons. There is a crafting system, but it's just there to lock access to certain items behind a skill gate (with that skill being one that's not there solely for crafting), let the player "find" items without actually having them laying around, or turn useful items for other builds into useful items for your builds. There's no collecting random junk to get +1% more damage or build an uber sword.

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

Wiz8, with the caveat that the quests are only decent to good on the main path. The dialogue system and the writing/voice acting is cool tho.

 

[Saint_Proverbius]

I want recommendations of something cool to play, wont even ask for good combat, because not even most of the codex top 10 have decent combat, however i want to play something with those 3 done right.

Kenshi. I'd argue that the "quest design" is great, because there aren't any that are designed, but the game world itself if designed to react to what you're doing on your own.

 

[Ryan muller]

KOTC1, Hearkenwold for KOTC2, Prelude to Darkness

Prelude to darkness is in my list for YEARS. I guess its time to check it out

 

[Ryan muller]

Unironicly Fallout: New Vegas. Sawyer's choice to avoid new weapons being strictly better than the ones directly below them and the existence of perks like Grunt/Cowboy and Handloader makes the itemization just work, instead of being a treadmill, by making it so that some builds or playstyles will actually prefer "lower tier" weapons. There is a crafting system, but it's just there to lock access to certain items behind a skill gate (with that skill being one that's not there solely for crafting), let the player "find" items without actually having them laying around, or turn useful items for other builds into useful items for your builds. There's no collecting random junk to get +1% more damage or build an uber sword.

Itemization and builds in vegas are cool

Quest design wants to make me hang myself with a rope

 

[Ryan muller]

Wiz8, with the caveat that the quests are only decent to good on the main path. The dialogue system and the writing/voice acting is cool tho.

Played a lot of Wiz8, yeah it definitively mostly fit the criteria

 

[Ryan muller]

I want recommendations of something cool to play, wont even ask for good combat, because not even most of the codex top 10 have decent combat, however i want to play something with those 3 done right.

Kenshi. I'd argue that the "quest design" is great, because there aren't any that are designed, but the game world itself if designed to react to what you're doing on your own.

I wanted real quests in the game, never touched kenshi but i know its more of a full sandboxy thing, im more in the vibe for purer rpgs

 

[Ryzer]

Wizardry 7

 

[Abu Antar]

Why have you not played Arcanum?

Wh did no one suggest Arcanum?

 

[Ryan muller]

Why have you not played Arcanum?

Wh did no one suggest Arcanum?

i played arcanum, not a big fan tho, but i did beat it 3 times already