Incline Quake II Enhanced Edition from Nightdive?

[Semiurge]

That's the headline. Is it possible that once Nightdive has polished SiN they will turn their eyes towards Quake II - the game with the engine that the original SiN runs on? Fuck that RTX demo, I want Q2 to get the same treatment Quake Enhanced got at least, the inclusion of some curated mod with upscaled textures would be a cherry on top.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

RTX was a glorified tech demo yes. Having a proper remaster of Quake 2 in the same terms of Quake 1's, that is, mostly a visual adjustment rather than a full makeover, would be nice. It's probably an easier sell due to the techno-cyberpunk vibes the game has, even if it's boring when compared to the first game in terms of aesthetics alone.

Quake 2 was also my first Quake game and I love it.

 

[Morgoth]

Quake 2 doesn't need a remaster. There are plenty of source ports out there. Or just play Quake 2 RTX with RTX disabled.

Alien Trilogy needs a KEX engine treatment.

 

[Semiurge]

Quake 2 doesn't need a remaster. There are plenty of source ports out there. Or just play Quake 2 RTX with RTX disabled.

Alien Trilogy needs a KEX engine treatment.

Aliens vs Predator 2 sure could use an engine update, it doesn't even support widescreen by default. The problem: it's in a license-limbo, just like the NOLF- series.

 

[Morgoth]

AvP2 can be perfectly played on modern systems with widescreen, using the Master Server Patch 2.4.
https://avpunknown.com/avp2aio/

If anything, Alien Trilogy needs it the most.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Meh, pointless. Sin was a bitch to run for me last few times i tried it before the "remaster" finally made it playable, but you can probably run Quake 2 on a toaster right next to Doom who cares.

Remaster the shit that's hard to find or play.

 

[pOcHa]

lol, people without rtx cards are salty, lmao even

 

[430am]

Why the fuck would Quake 2 need a remaster? It holds up extremely well, and probably will forever. In fact if you get a competent team to make something on it's engine today or one of the source ports it's going to be perfectly enjoyable.

 

[Tweed]

Please don't ruin remaster anymore games.

 

[Morenatsu.]

Meh, pointless. Sin was a bitch to run for me last few times i tried it before the "remaster" finally made it playable

Not that Sin "remaster", the other Sin "remaster".

 

[Lyric Suite]

Meh, pointless. Sin was a bitch to run for me last few times i tried it before the "remaster" finally made it playable

Not that Sin "remaster", the other Sin "remaster".

What? Isn't there only one? Talking about the Sin Gold port done by Nightdive. Maybe i shouldn't have called it a remaster since nothing was changed except it now runs while my old copy of Sin didn't.

 

[Ivan]

Why Quake 2 when Quake 1 exists?

 

[schru]

Meh, pointless. Sin was a bitch to run for me last few times i tried it before the "remaster" finally made it playable

Not that Sin "remaster", the other Sin "remaster".

What? Isn't there only one? Talking about the Sin Gold port done by Nightdive. Maybe i shouldn't have called it a remaster since nothing was changed except it now runs while my old copy of Sin didn't.

Apart from SiN: Gold which you've tried, there's also SiN Reloaded:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1313/SiN_Gold/

https://store.steampowered.com/app/632950/SiN_Reloaded/

The old version of Gold worked fine if run in a wrapper like dgVoodoo. I'm not sure if the updated one still has the problem with no option for UI scaling.

As for Quake II, it can look very nice if run at a right resolution for LCD monitors and with the brightness and gamma adjusted a little. I don't think it even looks generic, if one gets over its being a sequel to Quake. It still bears that hall-mark feeling of heavy-metal-inspired setting of hellish, brutalist, industrial concrete and metal crafted by Id's artists. It's actually worth noting how much more ‘whole’ and unique levels made almost entirely with meshes look.

 

[Tweed]

Why doesn't anyone want to remaster The Fortress of Doctor Radiaki? Or Corridor 7? Or CyClones? HMMMM?

 

[The Decline]

Why doesn't anyone want to remaster The Fortress of Doctor Radiaki? Or Corridor 7? Or CyClones? HMMMM?

Nitemare 3D!

 

[Lemming42]

The RTX remaster played fine and looked great, barring a couple areas that were pure derpy bullshit.

 

[SharkClub]

A (non-RTX shiny tech demo) Quake 2 remaster is literally only a matter of time and anyone who says otherwise is huffing some powerful copium. The Quake 1 remaster was quite well put together and had all of the official Quake 1 content in one (free for people who owned the original on steam) package including a brand new episode that was pretty well made no matter what people think of the poz factory that is MachineGames. Quake 2 getting a similar treatment is only a question of when.

 

[duskvile]

Is Quake reboot possible in new Idtech engine? I'd like that more than remaster.

 

[430am]

The Quake 1 remaster was quite well put together

So are plenty of sourceports, and have been for years from and by the community that plays the game.

had all of the official Quake 1 content in one

Just place all the fucking pak files in the folder, wow, that was hard.

including a brand new episode that was pretty well made

And there's plenty of "brand new episodes" coming out every year on Quaddicted with some masterpieces like Arcade Dimensions, and guess what, they're still made for the sourceports like Quakespasm-spiked and not the bethesda remasters.

Quake 2 getting a similar treatment is only a question of when.

Yeah for the corpo bux and definitely not to iterate on existing developments or improve player experience or convenience. Getting to play the game for an unfamiliar guy is a matter of minutes -- as easy as dragging a file from their bought game on steam or what other DRM platform you have into the kmquake2 folder. Nobody's going to be surprised if a rehash cash grab is announced due to lack of vision and talent to develop something new, it's just that it's obviously completely needless since the game didn't age and already plays just fine on modern systems. In fact it's graphical style and fidelity (and very often code -- Fortune's Run movement code, for example, is directly ripped from CPMA) is already mass emulated by indie and vaporware devs, as well company backed small side projects dubbed with the marketing term "boomer shooter".

 

[SharkClub]

Your wall of text of copium does not change the fact that it's going to happen.

 

[430am]

Nobody said that it's not going to, retard, cuckchan buzzwords won't make you read the posts any better.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Meh, pointless. Sin was a bitch to run for me last few times i tried it before the "remaster" finally made it playable

Not that Sin "remaster", the other Sin "remaster".

What? Isn't there only one? Talking about the Sin Gold port done by Nightdive. Maybe i shouldn't have called it a remaster since nothing was changed except it now runs while my old copy of Sin didn't.

Apart from SiN: Gold which you've tried, there's also SiN Reloaded:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1313/SiN_Gold/

https://store.steampowered.com/app/632950/SiN_Reloaded/

The old version of Gold worked fine if run in a wrapper like dgVoodoo. I'm not sure if the updated one still has the problem with no option for UI scaling.

As for Quake II, it can look very nice if run at a right resolution for LCD monitors and with the brightness and gamma adjusted a little. I don't think it even looks generic, if one gets over its being a sequel to Quake. It still bears that hall-mark feeling of heavy-metal-inspired setting of hellish, brutalist, industrial concrete and metal crafted by Id's artists. It's actually worth noting how much more ‘whole’ and unique levels made almost entirely with meshes look.

I had no idea they were making an actual remake. Personally i like the original just fine i don't need updated graphics i just needed it to work.

The original Gold version never worked for me even with dgVoodoo.

 

[schru]

Meh, pointless. Sin was a bitch to run for me last few times i tried it before the "remaster" finally made it playable

Not that Sin "remaster", the other Sin "remaster".

What? Isn't there only one? Talking about the Sin Gold port done by Nightdive. Maybe i shouldn't have called it a remaster since nothing was changed except it now runs while my old copy of Sin didn't.

Apart from SiN: Gold which you've tried, there's also SiN Reloaded:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1313/SiN_Gold/

https://store.steampowered.com/app/632950/SiN_Reloaded/

The old version of Gold worked fine if run in a wrapper like dgVoodoo. I'm not sure if the updated one still has the problem with no option for UI scaling.

As for Quake II, it can look very nice if run at a right resolution for LCD monitors and with the brightness and gamma adjusted a little. I don't think it even looks generic, if one gets over its being a sequel to Quake. It still bears that hall-mark feeling of heavy-metal-inspired setting of hellish, brutalist, industrial concrete and metal crafted by Id's artists. It's actually worth noting how much more ‘whole’ and unique levels made almost entirely with meshes look.

I had no idea they were making an actual remake. Personally i like the original just fine i don't need updated graphics i just needed it to work.

The original Gold version never worked for me even with dgVoodoo.

It seems like newer versions of dgVoodoo have some problems with the 3dfx OpenGL renderer. I tried it with version 2.55 and it works, though I couldn't get the screen scaling to work, but I still don't have a graphics card:

 

[Lyric Suite]

Well, the Nightdive version works so i haven't bothered to try again with the old version. Only issue is the UI scaling but there's an hack you can use to fix that. Can't remember how it worked but i have it written somewhere i can look it up if you want to. You need an hex editor and Piexoto.

 

[schru]

Thanks, but I'll have to see it for myself first. At this point I prefer to use original renderers with wrappers anyway, for things like 16-bit colour with dithering (image manually resized to make it easier to see):

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