Eternity Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire + DLC Thread - now with turn-based combat!

[Nano]

In what way is Rymrgand the best? The most interesting one is Skaen hands down.

Right, the rabid anti-slavery one tailor made for Current Year SJWs.

 

[Lacrymas]

In what way is Rymrgand the best? The most interesting one is Skaen hands down.

Right, the rabid anti-slavery one tailor made for Current Year SJWs.

If Skaen is a current_year SJW god tailor-made for slaves, then Christianity is/was also.

 

[Nano]

If Skaen is a current_year SJW god tailor-made for slaves, then Christianity is/was also.

Aren't Christians basically the original SJWs?

 

[NJClaw]

If Skaen is a current_year SJW god tailor-made for slaves, then Christianity is/was also.

Aren't Christians basically the original SJWs?

Uh, excuse me, but this very informative PragerU video taught me that the Lord is a God of justice and not social justice:



Now you look like a fool, dude.

 

[Lacrymas]

That video gave me e-cancer.

 

[Lambach]

Right, the rabid anti-slavery one tailor made for Current Year SJWs.

Skaen is not anti-slavery, wtf. His thing is about supporting those who are currently enslaved to overthrow their masters through violent revolution, but only so that they themselves can become the new masters who will then need to be violently overthrown in the future, perpetuating the cycle forever.

 

[Lacrymas]

Where are you getting that from?

 

[Lambach]

In-game lore. The biggest part of his portfolio is violent revolution, which becomes unnecessary in a world where the powerful don't oppress the powerless. PoE gods, other than Rymrgand, don't seem to be the types to willingly put themselves out of a job. In a world without slavery or similar forms of oppression, Skaen's purpose becomes moot.

 

[Lacrymas]

That's hyperinterpretation if I've ever seen one. The same logic could be applied to the Christian God as well. I also wouldn't say Skaen is most concerned with violent retribution. That is just a/the tool he uses to help the oppressed. Skaen's worshipers definitely don't subscribe to the idea violent retribution is his end goal. The end goal is victory over oppression in whatever form. There is definitely nothing in his scriptures to suggest the old slaves should become the new masters. Ziets knows that's not what happens irl, so he wouldn't write that in when designing the gods.

 

[Lambach]

That's hyperinterpretation if I've ever seen one. The same logic could be applied to the Christian God as well. I also wouldn't say Skaen is most concerned with violent retribution. That is just a/the tool he uses to help the oppressed. Skaen's worshipers definitely don't subscribe to the idea violent retribution is his end goal. The end goal is victory over oppression in whatever form.

Uh-huh, that is why he allied himself with Woedica, because his actual goal is a truly free, liberated society.

 

[Lacrymas]

He's definitely an opportunist, don't get me wrong. He's short-sighted like all the other gods in this world, so he goes where he sees oppression without taking into account the consequences. Whether that should be interpreted as his motivation however, i.e. deliberately causing oppression in order to fight it in a cyclical manner, is a different thing entirely. In no way can that be interpreted as being pro-slavery, though.

 

[Efe]

and the reason hes with woedica? the patron god of thing he stands against for?
doesnt he even ask for souls to be sent to her?

 

[Lacrymas]

What is the thing he stands against that Woedica is for?

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Thanks for making me realize the only good God is rymrgand because it will finally put an end to this mess.

 

[Lambach]

Every time. Every single fucking time I make the same mistake. I try to engage Lacrytard seriously instead of just calling him a retard and moving on.

 

[AwesomeButton]

I knew it we wouldn't make it past another Skaen rant.

 

[NJClaw]

I also wouldn't say Skaen is most concerned with violent retribution.

Skaen is so not concerned with violent retribution that literally the only thing the game keeps showing about his cult is that you can cut off your face and dick to become an avatar of burning rage whose only goal is to "slain in a gruesome manner" your oppressors.

 

[AwesomeButton]

I also wouldn't say Skaen is most concerned with violent retribution.

Skaen is so not concerned with violent retribution that literally the only thing the game keeps showing about his cult is that you can cut off your face and dick to become an avatar of burning rage whose only goal is to "slain in a gruesome manner" your oppressors.

You can see how this has resulted in an ardent following on the Codex.

 

[Lacrymas]

I think we all agree PoE1 doesn't have good writing and Skaenites were the worst affected by this.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

For god's sake, years of bitching, thousands of pages, finally there was some positivity and productive discussion in the PoE threads and of course Lacrymas had to show up with his Skaen nonsense again.

 

[Parabalus]

That's hyperinterpretation if I've ever seen one. The same logic could be applied to the Christian God as well. I also wouldn't say Skaen is most concerned with violent retribution. That is just a/the tool he uses to help the oppressed. Skaen's worshipers definitely don't subscribe to the idea violent retribution is his end goal. The end goal is victory over oppression in whatever form.

Uh-huh, that is why he allied himself with Woedica, because his actual goal is a truly free, liberated society.

Woedica is being oppressed by the other gods, his idealism obliges him to help her.

 

[Lambach]

Lacrytard is to the quality of Codex discussions what Rymrgand is to Eora. An unstoppable, inevitable force of extreme mental retardation entropy that grinds it to dust.

 

[Lacrymas]

For god's sake, years of bitching, thousands of pages, finally there was some positivity and productive discussion in the PoE threads and of course Lacrymas had to show up with his Skaen nonsense again.

I've been positive about Skaen from the very beginning.

Woedica is being oppressed by the other gods, his idealism obliges him to help her.

I wouldn't consider Woedica oppressed. She's oppressed in the same way people who have been privileged get the smallest taste of equality and see that as oppression. However, she thinks she is and that is enough for Skaen, apparently.

 

[Anonymous Wife Scholar]

Thanks for making me realize the only good God is rymrgand because it will finally put an end to this mess.

What! Rymrgand anon does have analingus name anon! He does! It does make me think anon! It does!

 

[Lambach]

Woedica is being oppressed by the other gods, his idealism obliges him to help her.

Woedica was the queen of the gods before she was overthrown. Without her at that spot, there was no one other god to lord over others, making rebillion among the gods pointless.

Enter Skaen.