Eternity Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire + DLC Thread - now with turn-based combat!

[Haplo]

Deadfire 2.0 is basically Deadfire 1.2 with bug fixes plus Magran's Fires and whatever new DLC content there is, but it seems they are done with mechanics iterations. Make of that what you will...

I hope that's not actually true. It may just as well be that the next batch of serious mechanic changes is not ready for prime time.
There is one fairly important change - the Ranger pet got a significant buff. I think this was needed, although I'm not sure if its enough to make the overall ranger package attractive.

Anyway, I agree they should have called it 1.3 or 1.5 or some such, instead of going with 2.0 right away, which suggests major changes. I guess they did that for marketing purposes - to convince people into thinking that a major patching phase has been completed and now is a good time to start playing. Which might actually be true, as a large amount of bugs HAS been addressed (between 1.1 and "2.0").

 

[HoboForEternity]

i am more in line with santino's argument. They might not be the omnipotent god or involved in the creation of life in eora, but they are risen high enough to be considered gods.

Plus they did create some of the races in deadfire (magran created the fire giants)

so yeah, even they didnt create the original kiths and creatures, they have the ability to create or at least strongly influence existing creatures like making a godlike, or fire giants.

so gods can make burning humans and large burning humans but humans can create gods
hmm

that is retarted analogy.

You can built a computer to do a hundred million calculation per minute, therefore you can also do a hundred million calculation per minute too.

Plus the gods are more like AI that learns and siphon souls over 2 millenia, they too are getting stronger.

 

[fantadomat]

A divinity is not just something more powerful than you. Only a retarded atheists see it as power=God. Reading such drivel makes me vomit. Something created by magic and science is not a god,it is as false as it gets.

 

[Strange Fellow]

I'm still weirded out by the fact that you people not only hope, but expect the entire system to be completely overhauled several times after the game's release, as though it were something that every dev did.

 

[Safav Hamon]

• Triple Crown
  • Expert Mode
  • Trial of Iron
• Solo
  • Cannot recruit companions, sidekicks, or adventurers

Copypasta from the first game - the only reason Josh took them out was because he didn't want to listen to complaints from cheevo hunters on steam.

Expert Mode and Trial of Iron have been in the game since launch.

 

[Ulfhednar]

I'm still weirded out by the fact that you people not only hope, but expect the entire system to be completely overhauled several times after the game's release, as though it were something that every dev did.

PoE 3.0 was a significantly better experience than 1.0... so it will be disappointing if they stop iterating. I'm not really expecting it to happen to the same extent this time around though, especially since Josh doesn't seem to want anything to do with the game due to burnout.

 

[Safav Hamon]

I added a screenshot to prove that Trial of Iron and Expert Mode are already in the game. Nice try though.

 

[fantadomat]

I'm still weirded out by the fact that you people not only hope, but expect the entire system to be completely overhauled several times after the game's release, as though it were something that every dev did.

PoE 3.0 was a significantly better experience than 1.0... so it will be disappointing if they stop iterating. I'm not really expecting it to happen to the same extent this time around though, especially since Josh doesn't seem to want anything to do with the game due to burnout.

Really? I find no big difference,maybe 3.0 was easier than 1.0,but i never noticed much of a difference. Maybe a few numbers here and there and some skills that got changed but it never felt as it is something very different.

 

[fantadomat]

I added a screenshot to prove that Trial of Iron and Expert Mode are already in the game. Nice try though.

You mean in that version 1.2.2. ?

 

[Ulfhednar]

I added a screenshot to prove that Trial of Iron and Expert Mode are already in the game. Nice try though.

No shit - they took out the Triple Crown and Triple Crown Solo achievements, that's all I ever said.

 

[Safav Hamon]

Your first post made it sound like they weren't in the game at all, but whatever. I didn't think anyone cared about achievements.

Deadfire is already a major improvement over PoE 3.0. They will still probably tweak some things in the future, but expecting them to overhaul the mechanics with every patch is beyond unreasonable.

 

[Sizzle]

Artificial or genuine, what does it matter as long as the Gods do interesting stuff, scheme against each other, raise armies of mortals, guide adventurers through secret halls to do their bidding, etc.
As portrayed in that room in the big tree near the end of PoE1, or in White March, they were cool. As portrayed in Deadfire, as incompetent and impotent, they were seriously lame.

Probably the biggest problem I have with them is how they handled the entire crisis - they sent one mortal whom they charged with finding out (and maybe even stopping) a potentially catastrophic event. They gave the PC jack shit (worse than that, they actively withheld information), no special equipment, abilities, allies, etc., and even couldn't be bothered to call off their own aggressive creations (Magran's Rathun).

At least similar bickering pantheons, such as the Greek one, would aid their chosen champions, all the Eora gods do is posture.

 

[Prime Junta]

I have so many thoughts about story in Deadfire.

Most of them are in the "what were they thinking?" category.

 

[fantadomat]

I have so many thoughts about story in Deadfire.

Most of them are in the "what were they thinking?" category.

Did you finish it?

 

[Lacrymas]

A divinity is not just something more powerful than you. Only a retarded atheists see it as power=God. Reading such drivel makes me vomit. Something created by magic and science is not a god,it is as false as it gets.

The Abrahamic God is indeed a bit more complicated than power, but that's not so true in polytheistic pantheons. The problem there is that it's never clear what exactly the gods are, whether they are guardians of their portfolios, physical manifestations of the portfolios or the actual portfolios (i.e. Apollo IS the sun). This varies from author to author, they are even described differently in the same author. Eora's gods are unequivocally described as guardians with immense power over their domains. In such a context, and they are generally considered eternal and transcending mortal capabilities, them being regarded as holy or sacred is enough to qualify as divine. There are no philosophical discussion on anything else, and we have no real life basis to argue anything else.

 

[HoboForEternity]

A divinity is not just something more powerful than you. Only a retarded atheists see it as power=God. Reading such drivel makes me vomit. Something created by magic and science is not a god,it is as false as it gets.

explain the difference between "real" deity and a "fake" one.

 

[fantadomat]

A divinity is not just something more powerful than you. Only a retarded atheists see it as power=God. Reading such drivel makes me vomit. Something created by magic and science is not a god,it is as false as it gets.

The Abrahamic God is indeed a bit more complicated than power, but that's not so true in polytheistic pantheons. The problem there is that it's never clear what exactly the gods are, whether they are guardians of their portfolios, physical manifestations of the portfolios or the actual portfolios (i.e. Apollo IS the sun). This varies from author to author, they are even described differently in the same author. Eora's gods are unequivocally described as guardians with immense power over their domains. In such a context, and they are generally considered eternal and transcending mortal capabilities, them being regarded as holy or sacred is enough to qualify as divine. There are no philosophical discussion on anything else, and we have no real life basis to argue anything else.

When it come down to divinity,all the gods are similar or the same. God is no different than Zeus or any other pagan god. Uhhh actually i have no desire to go down this rabbit hole,you are talking about portfolios and authors,i talk about believe and devotion. There is no fucking way you will understand me or my point.

 

[Infinitron]

Beta Patch Notes v2.0.0.0017

• Magran's Fires - New challenges and old favorites have been added for players that want a difficult experience with a twist. These can only be done on Path of the Damned difficulty.
  • Triple Crown
    • Expert Mode
    • Trial of Iron
  • Solo
    • Cannot recruit companions, sidekicks, or adventurers
  • Berath's Challenge
    • Any party member Knocked Out for 6 seconds is Killed
    • Cannot flee from combat
  • Magran's Challenge
    • The game cannot be paused
    • The game time cannot be slowed
• Essence Interrupter - A new Hunting Bow created by you, the community, that has been infused with animancer technology to provide interesting effects to attacks.

Spoiler

Major Issues

• Fixed an issue where users would crash upon getting into combat with Cave Grubs.
• Fixed an issue where users would crash upon getting into combat with the Giant Cave Grub.
• Fixed an issue where users would crash after leaving the pre-Ukaizo god Scripted Interaction.
• Fixed an issue where solo Rogues could instantly win ship boarding combat by using Smoke Veil.
• Fixed various issues where interactables would only highlight from certain angles or positions.
• Fixed an issue where some users would crash after declining to help Berath during the Prologue.
• Fixed an issue where a save file would be deleted if the player created a save, didn't move, then saved on the same file.
• Fixed an issue where leveling a companion could turn the player character into a duplicate of the companion.

Companions/Crew

• Fixed an issue where Pallegina's Exalted Focus buff would stay on the party after she was removed from the party.
• Fixed an issue where the Crookspur Archer SI was only using Xoti's reaction even if she wasn't in the party.
• Fixed an issue where Monk Xoti was dealing less base damage than what was intended.
• Fixed an issue where some players would still see Baltia in Motare o Kozi as well as on their ship after recruitment.
• Fixed an issue where Mirke would come back to life if the player had killed her and later spoke to Aeldys.
• Fixed an issue where Aloth could gain infinite negative reputation with Serafen.
• Fixed an issue where the Watcher could gain infinite reputation(positive and negative) with Maia in a conversation with Fleet Master Okaya.
• Fixed an issue where Eder would still have dialogue on Vilario's Rest even if he was dead.
• Fixed an issue where players could ask Rekke about Eder even if Eder had not been recruited.
• A "Serafen wants to talk" option now appears after completing A Sorcerer and a Gentleman.

User Interface

• Fixed an issue where the skill assist tooltip progress bar was populating incorrectly on its first activation.
• Fixed an issue where Berath's Wrath would display incorrectly on character status windows.
• Fixed an issue where negative effects would permanently display a negative effect timer.
• Fixed an issue where some players would get a blank Enemy Defeated window after winning a ship battle.
• Fixed an issue where the Crafting UI would show players being able to craft more food than they have materials available.
• Fixed an issue where modals would not display active or inactive properly when one was on cooldown and another was clicked.
• Fixed an issue where skill indicators in Scripted Interactions would display when playing on Expert Mode.
• Fixed an issue where players could have more than the max value of ship supplies by looting the items and putting them in personal inventory.
• Fixed an issue where players could enchant items belonging to vendors while they were in the trade section of the store UI.
• Ship injury count label refreshes when a character recovers and on load.

Quests

• Spoiler
  
  
• • Fixed an issue where some players could not turn in A Shrewd Proposition if Aeldys relocates to Dunnage.
  • Fixed an issue where some players could not turn in A Paradise of the Mind to Copperhead.
  • Fixed an issue where Syri would have a conversation about Remaro even after Blow the Man Down and The Sorcerer and the Gentleman have been completed.
  • Fixed an issue where Harsh Medicine would not display as completed after bring turned in.
  • Fixed an issue where some players could not turn in Of Like Minds if they helped Master Kua, secured an alliance, then proceeded to kill him anyway.
  • Fixed an issue where A Dance with Death would not fail upon killing Captain Furrante.
  • Fixed an issue where Captain Mer Trevisilo and Captain Gold-Fin Chiara would be alive in the Balefire Beacon even if they were killed after Captain Furrante's execution.
  • Fixed an issue where Hunting Season could not be completed if Matter of Import is active.
  • Fixed an issue where players who leave and return to the Spire of the Soul-Seers after saving Flaune have the cutscene play again.
  • Fixed an issue where players were able to turn in Taking out the Traders after they had already sided with the Principi.
  • Fixed an issue where Talfor's encounter could occur after Sealed Fate had been completed.
  • Fixed an issue where the bluff option when obtaining luminous adra for Goods and Services would continue with the non-bluff dialogue.
  • Fixed an issue where the Watcher's skiff in the wrecked ship encounter for The Painted Masks would be hovering in the air instead of floating in the water.
  • Fixed an issue where Aeldys would reward the player with Casita Samelia's Legacy instead of the Swift Hunter's Garb upon completing Goods and Services.
  • Fixed an issue where Hunting Season would be available after the Royal Deadfire Company Powderhouse was destroyed.
  • Fixed an issue where Dereo suggests that the player stole the Cornett of Waves from Takano even if they received it as a gift.
  • Fixed an issue where Furrante's body would display as an interactable after his execution.
  • Fixed an issue where the game would not auto-pause if combat broke out during the trial in Taking Out the Traders.

Audio

• Fixed an issue where Corrosive Splash was missing its sound effects.

Miscellaneous

• Fixed an issue where weapons would be removed from the third and fourth sets after level up.
• Fixed an issue where Wahai Porga was missing its stat block and hover tooltip.
• Fixed an issue where interrupts or disables could lead to weapons not rendering.
• Fixed an issue where spell casts would not cancel immediately upon combat ending. This caused issues with summoned weapons where players would have the ability to save then load the game and have the summoned weapons get stuck in slot.
• Fixed an issue where sigils would continue to pulse attack during cutscenes and conversations.
• Fixed an issue where characters would become transparent after swapping in normal weapons to replace summoned weapons in a weapon slot.
• Fixed issue with being able to pickpocket miscellaneous loot from Bertenno.
• Fixed an issue where weapon and shield effects would sometimes work when they were unequipped.
• Fixed an issue where Corrupted Blade enchant would not replace the Tainted Blade enchant on Hel Beckoning.
• Fixed an issue where Vailian Plate Armor was not displaying its unique appearance on female characters.
• Fixed an issue where one of the merchant vessels could not be engaged.
• Fixed an issue where Rotghasts could get stuck in an attack loop.
• Fixed an issue where monetary values were not appearing in dialogue when response qualifiers were disabled.
• Fixed an issue where "resting" NPC's were showing detection circles.
• Fixed an issue where the rightmost pirate lord chair in Balefire Beacon had more than one description attached to it.
• Fixed an issue where the Island Aumaua passive Among the Waves would persist outside of combat.
• Fixed an issue where Heavy Draw on Saint Omaku's Mercy wasn't scaling Survival properly.
• Fixed an issue where some NPCs in the Kraken's Eye were not playing their barks.
• Fixed an issue where weapon copies in player weapon slots would disappear when reverting from a shapeshifted form.
• Fixed an issue where the Ship Storm Scripted Interaction was using the Watcher's Arcana for the skill check instead of the chosen party member's.
• Fixed an issue where the Watcher's Blade was missing its description.
• Fixed an issue where Beakhead was displaying as Orbit for additional effects.
• Fixed an issue where some corpses in the Subterranean Temple were unlootable.
• Fixed an issue where some NPCs could be pickpocketed with 0 Sleight of Hand with no Party Assist.
• Fixed an issue where the points of interest on the RDC Imperial Command Lower map were not positioned correctly.
• Fixed an issue where the RDC Powderhouse upper door would remain locked after players exited the building via that door.
• Fixed an issue where players could use Constitution Inspirations as a source of healing in the Boa Hika Pass Scripted Interaction.
• Fixed an issue where some of the NPCs in the Imperial Command would not drop equipment upon death.
• Fixed some pathing issues in the Deadlight Court.
• Various typo fixes.
• Spoiler
  • Fixed an issue where the Guardian of Ukaizo would reemerge if players killed it before it could heal or change forms.
  • Fixed an issue where the Cipher's Shackle given to the player from Serafen would not grand dexterity affliction resistance.
  • Fixed an issue where the Blighted Bog encounter on the uncharted island would not have enemies spawn and attack after eating the Menpwgra mushroom.
  • Fixed an issue where pet Nemnok was displaying an effect timer on party portraits.

Systems Updates

• General
  • Re-enabed tutorial and glossary entry for Counters and updated their strings to match the current in-game behavior.
  • Typed Afflictions that aren't given priority are considered top priority, (Petrified and Frozen now supersede Hobble, Immobilize, & Paralyze).
  • Halved the bonus PL poisons receive from Alchemy and status effect damage scaling has been reduced from +10% / PL to +5% (in line with other damage scaling bonuses).
  • Traps no longer show level scaling due to character level in their stat blocks.
  • Slog Zones now reapply their effects to character in the slog on interval.
• Creatures
  • Magma Ooze emerge ability now displays a proper string when commanded to move during its emerge.
  • Removed Will-o-wisp redundant resistance to dexterity afflictions when they were already immune to them.
  • Spoiler
    
    
  • • Jadaferlas and Scyorielaphas no longer show Galawain's Favor or Wrath abilities in the bestiary.
    • Guardian of Ukaizo can no longer be stunned by any player effect (Withdraw, Stasis Shell, Beetle Shell etc...).

• Items
  • Thaos' Headdress Intellect bonus from Authority no longer clears after attacking.
  • Trollhide Belt and Ring of Regeneration now stack their effects.
  • Effort's "Lacerating" and "Maiming" enchantments will now always properly apply their DoT effect when striking with the weapon.
  • Duskfall and Kahua Hozi "Feather Light" mod now applies properly to each weapon if these weapons are dual wielded.
  • "Of Intellect" effects will now properly stack if they appear in multiple item mods.
  • Bardatto's Luxury Nobility and Untouchable are now visible in UI.
  • Scroll of Wilting Wind no longer has a duplicate "Wind" keyword.
  • Scroll of Tornado no longer has duplicate "Wind" keywords.
  • All Scroll consumables have been given a keyword to properly recognize them as Spells.
  • Blunderbuss "Inaccurate" mod now properly applies to blunderbusses held in the off-hand.
  • Kapana Taga Unblockable, Removed unintended +4 base Accuracy bonus.
  • The frequency of vanity pet barks has been halved.
  • Magistrate's Cudgel will now properly show the Tier 2 lore description if the user has the item bound to the monk class.
  • Blazing Fury, Wild Shot, and Wild Barrage effects will now clear if you switch weapons while their effects are active.
  • Hel Beckoning's "Corrupted Blade" enchant now properly replaces "Tainted Blade".
  • Watcher’s Blade will now properly unequip itself and update its icon when inspected and obtained.
  • Drunkard's Regret now uses proper character reference when deciding if a hangover should occur.
  • Saint's War Armor enchant paths are now properly mutually exclusive if you choose Rock Solid first.

• Classes:
  • Fighter
    • Fighter Charge now properly rolls against Deflection for its Stun effect.
  • Rogue
    • Rogue Persistent Distraction no longer clears all Perception Afflictions when the rogue disengages, it will now only clear its own effect.
  • Ranger
    • Ranger Companions attack speed Average Recovery -> Fast Recovery and their armor penalty has been reduced from a 0.6 factor to 0.8 (-25%).
    • Stalker's Link accuracy bonus now properly only applies when the animal companion threatens the same target.
  • Monk
    • Stunning Surge will no longer refund its cost twice if dual wielding and both attacks crit.
  • Priest
    • Spark the Souls of the Rightous now correctly rolls against Reflex when dealing damage.
    • Priest Dismissal and Paladin Abjuration will revert to their direct damage mechanic when striking "Boss" enemies.
  • Druid
    • Sunlance now has the "Fire" keyword.
  • Wizard
    • Meteor Shower and Scroll of Meteor Shower now have the "Fire" Keyword.
    • Citzal's Enchanted Armory Breastplate now has no recovery penalty.
    • Ninagauth's Bitter Mooring now has the Frost Keyword.
    • Wizard Subclass locked spell restrictions no longer apply to variants of wizard spells (such as Trickster, Priest subclass, and item granted spells).
    • Concelhaut's Crushing Doom effects will now end if combat ends.
  • Cipher
    • Mental Binding now has the Mind Keyword on its base ability in addition to being on the attack.
    • Puppetmaster base ability now has the Mind Keyword in addition to the Puppetmaster attack.
    • Wild Leech now lists its targeted defense in its stat block.
    • Cipher's Shackle should now properly grant resistance to dexterity afflictions.

Source: https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/104120-beta-patch-notes-for-version-200/

 

[Lacrymas]

When it come down to divinity,all the gods are similar or the same. God is no different than Zeus or any other pagan god. Uhhh actually i have no desire to go down this rabbit hole,you are talking about portfolios and authors,i talk about believe and devotion. There is no fucking way you will understand me or my point.

If we are talking about belief and devotion, then Eora's gods definitely qualify as divine. Saying anything else is like saying "atheists exist, so checkmate, God's divinity".

 

[fantadomat]

When it come down to divinity,all the gods are similar or the same. God is no different than Zeus or any other pagan god. Uhhh actually i have no desire to go down this rabbit hole,you are talking about portfolios and authors,i talk about believe and devotion. There is no fucking way you will understand me or my point.

If we are talking about belief and devotion, then Eora's gods definitely qualify as divine. Saying anything else is like saying "atheists exist, so checkmate, God's divinity".

Really? I haven't seen any devotion or believe in those games....outside of Durance and Skaen dungeon. Nobody acts as if they care about the gods and their aspect. There are priests,but they just sit around and scratch their balls waiting for the player to fix their problems.

 

[Lacrymas]

Quite the opposite, everyone cares a little bit too much. Is there an NPC who doesn't reference the gods in some way? It's really quite cringey and I now twitch every time someone mentions them in-game.

 

[fantadomat]

Prime Junta you are in for a eventful ride then , the more you play the more......"amusing" the writing becomes. Would love to read your thought by the end of the....experience. Watch out for Takehu's wet dick,that gay falls in love fast.

 

[Prime Junta]

Did you finish it?

Nope, still tooling around with different builds.

 

[fantadomat]

Did you finish it?

Nope, still tooling around with different builds.

Are you going for PotD for some achievements?

 

[Iskramor]

Now time for some poetry this is just for Prime Junta


Guardians of the Reich
Iron stars burning bright
Glorious iron sun
Panzer VI - Tiger I