Pentiment - Josh Sawyer's historical mystery narrative-driven game set in 16th century Bavaria

[Nano]

There's really this much faggotry in the game or is it an edited picture?

Spoiler

It's photoshopped. Don't you wish it was real, though?

 

[Dadd]

Oh my gawwwwwwwwd it's a mopey masturbatory self-insert sequence. I wish Fairfax were around to see this.

If Josh is self-inserting, what does this picture mean?

It means he will self-insert into the gentleman on the right.

 

[Nano]

It means he will self-insert into the gentleman on the right.

Other way around. This is Josh we're talking about.

 

[Dadd]

It means he will self-insert into the gentleman on the right.

Other way around. This is Josh we're talking about.

Their body language shows the right guy is definitely the catcher.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

So is it true that the game doesn't even bother to...

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Have a concrete culprit for the murder that the PC investigates? Basically you can condemn anybody, but it's just a matter of opinion and you as the player can't know who the real murderer was within the story.

If that's the case, then truly this game is irremediable garbage.

 

[Alienman]

If true yes. Waiting for someone here to confirm how it works. If it really is like that.

 

[Pound Meat]

That scratching pen sound when people talk...

It triggered this reviewer's ASMR:

It's not real ASMR unless it gives you an erection.

 

[Nifft Batuff]

 

[Dadd]

The alacrity with which dumb faded women parasitized uncle Dmitri's baby that is ASMR is nothing short of incredible.

 

[Roguey]

If that's the case, then truly this game is irremediable garbage.

If true yes. Waiting for someone here to confirm how it works. If it really is like that.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4004661&userid=17931

As for, "Why tell people this?" Some players enjoy games where you solve logic puzzles and methodically narrow down means/motive/opportunity and exclude suspects one at a time until you arrive at The Answer. That isn't what this game is, mechanically or narratively. I'd rather have people say, "Ah, okay, not for me," than get it thinking it's going to be something else.

It's not logic-based. It's almost entirely gathered evidence and vibes-based. You don't spend time working out opportunity/alibi. You look into suspects with limited time and at the end of that time, you offer the evidence you've found to (or conceal it from) the authorities. The decision you're making has more to do with your opinion and values than with anything else.

At a really basic level, we simply don't deal with the "opportunity" element of the murders. In our prototype, we had opportunity be part of the investigation and there were two issues: 1) it's quite time-consuming 2) they either exclude people (making the pool smaller) or it's time spent establishing a person doesn't have an alibi. And that's not really the point of the investigation. We aren't interested in the logic puzzle aspect of solving the murder -- and to be clear, you are not part of a trial. You are not a legal agent. You're a person who takes it upon himself to gather information to offer up when questioned by authorities.

The question put before you is who you want to be punished for the crime. It can be the person you believe has the strongest motive or is most physically/psychologically capable of performing the act itself, the person you dislike the most, the person you think the community will miss least. You can offer up evidence on every suspect you gather information on, just one, or a subset. Everyone is considered to have equal opportunity/no alibi because we simply never bring it up in the context of your investigation.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

So it's just a worse, more cringe version of this game

 

[whocares]

I will not eat the bugs. I will not live in a pod. I will not use 2FA.

 

[Pound Meat]

It's like a football game without a franchise mode.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Oh my gawwwwwwwwd it's a mopey masturbatory self-insert sequence. I wish Fairfax were around to see this.

This is horrible on so many levels. Why did he have to make this adventure game in the first place? Yeah, I know the obvious answers. But this all has the look of one of those high-school poetry books which someone sends to print in his late teens, not realizing what he is actually causing to himself.

 

[mediocrepoet]

There's really this much faggotry in the game or is it an edited picture?

Spoiler

It's photoshopped. Don't you wish it was real, though?

Spoiler

I think the most interesting thing about it is that my first reaction was that it was obviously fake, but after thinking about it for a moment, I wasn't sure. What a fucking time to be alive.

 

[AwesomeButton]

If that's the case, then truly this game is irremediable garbage.

If true yes. Waiting for someone here to confirm how it works. If it really is like that.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4004661&userid=17931

As for, "Why tell people this?" Some players enjoy games where you solve logic puzzles and methodically narrow down means/motive/opportunity and exclude suspects one at a time until you arrive at The Answer. That isn't what this game is, mechanically or narratively. I'd rather have people say, "Ah, okay, not for me," than get it thinking it's going to be something else.

It's not logic-based. It's almost entirely gathered evidence and vibes-based. You don't spend time working out opportunity/alibi. You look into suspects with limited time and at the end of that time, you offer the evidence you've found to (or conceal it from) the authorities. The decision you're making has more to do with your opinion and values than with anything else.

At a really basic level, we simply don't deal with the "opportunity" element of the murders. In our prototype, we had opportunity be part of the investigation and there were two issues: 1) it's quite time-consuming 2) they either exclude people (making the pool smaller) or it's time spent establishing a person doesn't have an alibi. And that's not really the point of the investigation. We aren't interested in the logic puzzle aspect of solving the murder -- and to be clear, you are not part of a trial. You are not a legal agent. You're a person who takes it upon himself to gather information to offer up when questioned by authorities.

The question put before you is who you want to be punished for the crime. It can be the person you believe has the strongest motive or is most physically/psychologically capable of performing the act itself, the person you dislike the most, the person you think the community will miss least. You can offer up evidence on every suspect you gather information on, just one, or a subset. Everyone is considered to have equal opportunity/no alibi because we simply never bring it up in the context of your investigation.

It's not even a detective game, and this is only stated... on SA? What a turd.

 

[Roguey]

Oh my gawwwwwwwwd it's a mopey masturbatory self-insert sequence. I wish Fairfax were around to see this.

This is horrible on so many levels. Why did he have to make this adventure game in the first place? Yeah, I know the obvious answers. But this all has the look of one of those high-school poetry books which someone sends to print in his late teens, not realizing what he is actually causing to himself.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Steam description:

From Obsidian, this game is a historical narrative-driven game focusing on character development, heavily stylized art, and choice-driven storytelling in early 16th century Bavaria. Players will play as Andreas Maler, a clever illustrator caught up in a series of murders in Tassing and Kiersau Abbey over the course of twenty five years. Players will be responsible for conducting their own investigation to decide the fate of the community, but each decision will have lasting consequences and inexorably draws Andreas closer to the center of an underlying conspiracy.

This weasel language can fully get you thinking that this is a detective game.

 

[Sarathiour]

If that's the case, then truly this game is irremediable garbage.

If true yes. Waiting for someone here to confirm how it works. If it really is like that.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4004661&userid=17931

As for, "Why tell people this?" Some players enjoy games where you solve logic puzzles and methodically narrow down means/motive/opportunity and exclude suspects one at a time until you arrive at The Answer. That isn't what this game is, mechanically or narratively. I'd rather have people say, "Ah, okay, not for me," than get it thinking it's going to be something else.

It's not logic-based. It's almost entirely gathered evidence and vibes-based. You don't spend time working out opportunity/alibi. You look into suspects with limited time and at the end of that time, you offer the evidence you've found to (or conceal it from) the authorities. The decision you're making has more to do with your opinion and values than with anything else.

At a really basic level, we simply don't deal with the "opportunity" element of the murders. In our prototype, we had opportunity be part of the investigation and there were two issues: 1) it's quite time-consuming 2) they either exclude people (making the pool smaller) or it's time spent establishing a person doesn't have an alibi. And that's not really the point of the investigation. We aren't interested in the logic puzzle aspect of solving the murder -- and to be clear, you are not part of a trial. You are not a legal agent. You're a person who takes it upon himself to gather information to offer up when questioned by authorities.

The question put before you is who you want to be punished for the crime. It can be the person you believe has the strongest motive or is most physically/psychologically capable of performing the act itself, the person you dislike the most, the person you think the community will miss least. You can offer up evidence on every suspect you gather information on, just one, or a subset. Everyone is considered to have equal opportunity/no alibi because we simply never bring it up in the context of your investigation.

Fuck this clown

Everyone is considered to have equal opportunity

"The important things for a detective story is to make sure that all the culprit are in term of evidence and alibi."

What a retard.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

This is horrible on so many levels. Why did he have to make this adventure game in the first place? Yeah, I know the obvious answers. But this all has the look of one of those high-school poetry books which someone sends to print in his late teens, not realizing what he is actually causing to himself.

 

[HeroMarine]

So the Game is a tranny, pretending it's something it isn't.

 

[AwesomeButton]

One thing I can see is that it took him 7 years after Deadfire and abstinence from game design to get most of his hubris back. Good old Josh, up to his old tricks, dishonest with his audience once again.

 

[Roguey]

A line of dialogue only an American could write. Some of the most left-leaning antiracist Europeans lose their fucking minds when you bring up the subject of gypsies. A people with one of the absolute worst cultures.

As an aside, here's a pretty miserable story of what happens when a bleeding heart American lefty is exposed to Romani culture: https://www.peterdavid.net/2010/07/23/romania-travelogue-part-3/

 

[LudensCogitet]

"It's not logic-based. It's almost entirely gathered evidence and vibes-based."

So it's Twitter mob cancel culture but everyone wears pantyhose.

 

[Dadd]

"It's not logic-based. It's almost entirely gathered evidence and vibes-based."

So it's Twitter mob cancel culture but everyone wears pantyhose.

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