Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

[GrainWetski]

So what's the Kodex Konsensus on this after a few months?

All the reviews seem incredibly butthurt about not being able to respec (which would make all your character build choices pointless anyway, like D:OS 2), and Sawyerists bitching about MUH BALANCE

So was PoE

That's not true at all..

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...FShcGPfPJ8q4jI5WXAOTtndCBg/edit#gid=297034668
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/codex-goty-2015-results.107369/

 

[prodigydancer]

So was PoE

Yeah, despite all the hate and butthurt from the vocal minority, PoE received its well-deserved recognition in the end.

 

[ArchAngel]

So was PoE

Yeah, despite all the hate and butthurt from the vocal minority, PoE received its well-deserved recognition in the end.

Except it didn't. That year Underrail won and AoD was second.

 

[ArchAngel]

I did the Blakemore fight for the first time at lvl 14,

Spoiler

Shiiit, this was a tough fight. Probably toughest so far. Even first battle vs Sirotek and two rape archers I considered hard and then Sirotek kept healing and summoning shit. The hardest part of this fight was because I could not prebuff since I chose the option to help finish the book and 8h pass or something. Also I had to spend most of the battle in slow mode and it felt like playing PoE instead of BG because everyone kept doing their thing in their initiative and I wanted to be most effective but I guess since battles like these are not common it is OK. If this game had a TB mode, this battle would have been super awesome

 

[Zarniwoop]

Well, you convinced me. Despite being based on Unity, the literal AIDS, cancer and Hitler of gaming, I bought the GOG version. Now for the massive download.

 

[prodigydancer]

From the v1.2 feedback thread on Steam:

I can't get past the opening screen. The game loads then I'm looking at the Pathfinder Kingmaker logo, then...nothing. Task manager ays not responding and the crashhandler is running. I tried uninstalling / reinstalling tried running in compatability mode I've got over 300 hours in the game and now it won't run.

The thread is already 7 pages long - mostly reports of crashes and broken quests.

But never worry, kids, the Jebus patch 1.3 will certainly fix all remaining microissues.



[Edit]: OK, in all seriousness, I think that Owlcat does deserve some credit for trying. They don't give up and release patches but I wonder how long it'll take them to make this game comfortably playable (if it'll ever happen at all).

 

[Sykar]

Playing without any problems atm.

 

[Sharpedge]

I did the Blakemore fight for the first time at lvl 14,

Spoiler

Shiiit, this was a tough fight. Probably toughest so far. Even first battle vs Sirotek and two rape archers I considered hard and then Sirotek kept healing and summoning shit. The hardest part of this fight was because I could not prebuff since I chose the option to help finish the book and 8h pass or something. Also I had to spend most of the battle in slow mode and it felt like playing PoE instead of BG because everyone kept doing their thing in their initiative and I wanted to be most effective but I guess since battles like these are not common it is OK. If this game had a TB mode, this battle would have been super awesome

Cast Icy prison on her and then walk around for 10 minutes. She will die eventually.

 

[Chippy]

So can I play this game again/yet? In other words - is it in a condition Bioware left TOB in after the final patch?. Still a great game, not in any hurry...

 

[Anthedon]

I made it!

Took only 136 hours. I could complete all quests, so it's no longer uber buggy. I don't know if the later chapters will ever become enjoyable though, that would require a lot of work. They do leave a sour taste in one's mouth after the excellent chapters one through five. I'll write a little more about it in the coming days.

Anyway, I salute these guys for their work.

 

[jdinatale]

Is the typical play through 136 hours?

 

[Funposter]

Is the typical play through 136 hours?

HowLongToBeat only has 4 playthroughs polled at the moment, but they actually do average out to 136 hours and 15 minutes.

https://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=60050

 

[purpleblob]

I did the Blakemore fight for the first time at lvl 14,

Spoiler

Shiiit, this was a tough fight. Probably toughest so far. Even first battle vs Sirotek and two rape archers I considered hard and then Sirotek kept healing and summoning shit. The hardest part of this fight was because I could not prebuff since I chose the option to help finish the book and 8h pass or something. Also I had to spend most of the battle in slow mode and it felt like playing PoE instead of BG because everyone kept doing their thing in their initiative and I wanted to be most effective but I guess since battles like these are not common it is OK. If this game had a TB mode, this battle would have been super awesome

That fight was incredibly annoying for me because I encountered a bug

Spoiler

Siroket is invincible if you clear out the adds first I had to basically just hang around Blakemoore and focus on Siroket only - thankfully, Blakemoore killing the adds didn't bug Soriket so long as my party don't attack the adds. My sorcerer basically spent the whole fight on the ground because all adds targeted her before I could even move.

Is the typical play through 136 hours?

I think that sounds about right, took me about that long as well.

 

[HoboForEternity]

Finally tried playing after update. I dont notice area loading being longer, but the first time loading is definitely longer. Not so much it became major annoyance.

I noticed the camera scrolling is faster too, because it was too slow even at max speed. The kingdom management loading time is definifely fantastic improvement

 

[Zarniwoop]

So, super long campaign, lots of choices, staying true to the pen & paper rules. Universally praised by prestigious gaming magazines apart from being buggy and rushed. Reminds me of Neverwinter Nights. Can't wait to see all the edgelords in 10 years time edging about how banal shit boring the campaign is.

 

[Lyre Mors]

So, super long campaign, lots of choices, staying true to the pen & paper rules. Universally praised by prestigious gaming magazines apart from being buggy and rushed. Reminds me of Neverwinter Nights. Can't wait to see all the edgelords in 10 years time edging about how banal shit boring the campaign is.

You're probably right about the 10 years from now edgelords, but there is absolutely no doubt that not only the gameplay, but the story as well, are vastly superior to both NWN and NWN2.

It's great to be getting back into the game since I took a break to wait for 1.2.

 

[PrettyDeadman]

From the v1.2 feedback thread on Steam:

I can't get past the opening screen. The game loads then I'm looking at the Pathfinder Kingmaker logo, then...nothing. Task manager ays not responding and the crashhandler is running. I tried uninstalling / reinstalling tried running in compatability mode I've got over 300 hours in the game and now it won't run.

The thread is already 7 pages long - mostly reports of crashes and broken quests.

But never worry, kids, the Jebus patch 1.3 will certainly fix all remaining microissues.



[Edit]: OK, in all seriousness, I think that Owlcat does deserve some credit for trying. They don't give up and release patches but I wonder how long it'll take them to make this game comfortably playable (if it'll ever happen at all).

The game was comfortable to play since kickstarter alpha...

 

[HoboForEternity]

. Reminds me of Neverwinter Nigh

nwn 1 campaign was shit. This one os alot lot lot better.

Cant be helped since nwn 1 campaign was a basic framework for the module builder.

 

[Cael]

This game reminds me of a WW2 bomber raid.

The pilot of the bomber (you) flies over the target, ducking and jiving incoming flak (bugs) while trying to avoid enemy fighter attacks (perfomance issues) and drop his bombs on target (finish the game).

 

[Andhaira]

Have the performance issues improved since the game launched?

 

[Cael]

Have the performance issues improved since the game launched?

I have no idea, to be honest. I am just making barbed comments about the game just to see the fanbois go crazy on command. Purely for my own amusement, you understand :D

 

[Projas]

Is the typical play through 136 hours?

Yes, but half of it is just loading.

 

[ArchAngel]

I did the Blakemore fight for the first time at lvl 14,

Spoiler

Shiiit, this was a tough fight. Probably toughest so far. Even first battle vs Sirotek and two rape archers I considered hard and then Sirotek kept healing and summoning shit. The hardest part of this fight was because I could not prebuff since I chose the option to help finish the book and 8h pass or something. Also I had to spend most of the battle in slow mode and it felt like playing PoE instead of BG because everyone kept doing their thing in their initiative and I wanted to be most effective but I guess since battles like these are not common it is OK. If this game had a TB mode, this battle would have been super awesome

That fight was incredibly annoying for me because I encountered a bug

Spoiler

Siroket is invincible if you clear out the adds first I had to basically just hang around Blakemoore and focus on Siroket only - thankfully, Blakemoore killing the adds didn't bug Soriket so long as my party don't attack the adds. My sorcerer basically spent the whole fight on the ground because all adds targeted her before I could even move.

In my battle

Spoiler

Sirotek two shot Blakemore who then did nothing while adds targeted my main as well. I had to reaload twice because they would kill me in one round. On third try I had to start that combat with Greater Invisibility.

 

[Elex]

So, super long campaign, lots of choices, staying true to the pen & paper rules. Universally praised by prestigious gaming magazines apart from being buggy and rushed. Reminds me of Neverwinter Nights. Can't wait to see all the edgelords in 10 years time edging about how banal shit boring the campaign is.

the campaign is directly taken pathfinder modules.

 

[Elex]

So what's the Kodex Konsensus on this after a few months?

All the reviews seem incredibly butthurt about not being able to respec (which would make all your character build choices pointless anyway, like D:OS 2), and Sawyerists bitching about MUH BALANCE

So was PoE

That's not true at all..

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...FShcGPfPJ8q4jI5WXAOTtndCBg/edit#gid=297034668
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/codex-goty-2015-results.107369/

wow i don’t remember it was 41