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patton

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VentilatorOfDoom said:
It doesn't appeal to me that as a mage you have only a few spells and thus are forced to spam the same spells over and over. (...)


that is because whole combat and class system is taken from mmorpgs, and mage role is not damage dealing, at least not in higher difficulties. warriors are tanks/damage dealers, rogues are damage dealers/utility, and mages in DA are crowd control. sure, you can max elemental tree and contribute to damage dealing, but that will get you raped at nightmare. mages are supposed to freeze, paralyze, slow, stun, set on fire etc. while your party chop enemies up. and the spells that do that are acually quite diverse + you got spell combinations

that of course sucks in comparison to bg2 where mages were a lot more diverse, and could fulfill multiple roles, even in higher difficulties. but it is still in harmony with DA "class roles" philosophy, and complaining that mages cant deal damage good is bullshit, because they are not supposed to.
 

VentilatorOfDoom

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Did I complain that Mages don't deal damage good? Or did I complain that spamming the same spells throughout the whole game is repetitve and gets boring fast?
And yes this MMO like spell system sucks in comparison to BG2 or any other DnD game or Wizardry.
 

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Chateaubryan said:
Holy fuck.

I have lost respect for anyone who says Dragon Age is anywhere near decent.

Also, the comments, man, the comments...
megadeath45 said:
LOL Zevran always hittin on the old ladies to no avail xD.

Can't blame him, tho. Wynne is hot for her age.

calmetosis said:
Just me or that "hm?" on 2:12 sound suspecious...

BTW! Hottest GILF evar! XD
 

Malakal

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@1eyed

The worst part of that movie was voice acting. Wynne sounded horrible, good thing I killed her on my playthrough. And yes, comments on youtube...
 

KazikluBey

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Clockwork Knight said:
Because inane conversations about mini giant space hamsters are distilled awesome, rite

Not that I think BG2 is distilled awesome, but at least only one character's banter is inane like that. In DA, I didn't see any party banter that didn't make me cringe - they were all centered around lame jokes.
 

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1eyedking said:
Chateaubryan said:
Holy fuck.

I have lost respect for anyone who says Dragon Age is anywhere near decent.

Also, the comments, man, the comments...
megadeath45 said:
LOL Zevran always hittin on the old ladies to no avail xD.

Can't blame him, tho. Wynne is hot for her age.

calmetosis said:
Just me or that "hm?" on 2:12 sound suspecious...

BTW! Hottest GILF evar! XD

That is indeed horrendous. The voice acting sounds like high school drama club.
 

1eyedking

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Malakal said:
@1eyed

The worst part of that movie was voice acting. Wynne sounded horrible, good thing I killed her on my playthrough. And yes, comments on youtube...
Zevran is even worse. The voice actor doesn't put emphasis on any word and/or sentence; it's like someone told him "just put on a very forced Spanish accent and read the goddamn text aloud".

In his defense I can at least say he doesn't sound sedated like the rest of the crew.
 
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Emotional Vampire said:
Clockwork Knight said:
Because inane conversations about mini giant space hamsters are distilled awesome, rite

Butthurt is strong in this one

Nah, just pointing out that if a retarded lulsy-random character can "ruin your respect FOREVER", BG2 would be a pos too

same for kotor with the lulz bot 9000. Meatbagsmeatbagsmeatbags, r00fles
 

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Lesifoere said:
I'm loling at the helmet on Sten.
Visor, woman, visor.

oculos_cyclops_japantoys_02.jpg
 

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"Can't blame him, tho. Wynne is hot for her age."

What the bleeping bleep? :? The internet's a creepy place, nya.
 

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Volourn said:
DA > BG2

I bet the escapist LOVED BG2 which did the same thing that DA shrugs. That ALl RPGs do - including PST, FO, ARC, BL, FF, GBG, etc.,e tc.

The guy is a hypocrite.

And, oh, to be clear:

DA > BG2

I don't recall a dungeon in BG2 taking as much time all by itself to clear as the Mage circle+fade+mage circle again. And the tower addon of ToB is O-P-T-I-O-N-A-L so that doesn't count.
I sincerely like DA but the amount of filler crap is huuuuuuuuge. I've done everything up until orzammar and I've heard Orzammar is even worse, I don't know whether I shall postpone it for a bit and play some other funnier game in the meantime. I feel burned.

Look, I'd rather have a thirty hours game with NO filler and pure story and content than have a 100 hours game with the same crap all over. If I wanted that, I'd play a SANDBOX like Daggerfall or Morrowind (which were pretty good games in their own sandboxy category)

The time it takes to clear a dungeon in DA is the time it takes for you to see three different sceneries in BG2.
 

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Emotional Vampire said:
What happened to [intelligence]?
This is the Dragon age. Gotta keep up with the times, grandpa.

Dnny said:
I've done everything up until orzammar and I've heard Orzammar is even worse, I don't know whether I shall postpone it for a bit and play some other funnier game in the meantime. I feel burned.
Orzammar did it for me. The Carta hideout was too much, I drew the line there: the game wasn't going anywhere and things weren't getting better anyway, and if anything worse; I was feeling sore already from all the repetitive boring encounters I had had in the Brecilian Forest+Temple and the Cultist hideout.

Having the same encounter over and over (level-scaled to boot) gets old fast. Dungeons didn't feel unique, didn't have any background lore whatsoever (felt like they were there for the lulz), C&C was weak and didn't satisfy, dialogue was abysmal, and you know what? Etc.

I've raged enough already.
 

Texas Red

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I enjoyed DA very much until I reached the dreaded Dwarf Caves, a strong competitor to Orc Caves of NWN 2. The game completely fell apart. I did finish the retarded tunnels but I lost all interest and couldn't get back to the game.
 

Dnny

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The positive : they can't possibly sell DLCs if we lose interest so fast in the game. After Orzammar there is what, still fifty percent of the game to do right ? it makes me kinda feel WTF because I actually like DA, I just feel burned by the quantity of inane dungeonity. I'd like to complete the game but, and it has been a long time since I've felt that way for a game, it makes me feel lazy. Like, I don't want to bother. The combat is too much based on repetition.

At least in BG2 like others said you had to know and get the right spells and equipments to fight Beholders, and know specific tactics to fight illithids and so on. But in DA there is only one way to do shit, because all your enemies will be or behave like rogues, fighters and wizards. Kill the wizards first and freeze the fighters. Rinse and repeat until you got enough.
 

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The first advice I got from a friend (and now a former workmate of mine) is that 'gp for the eyes',
-ehm- not - it was actually to go for the Wizards, the spellcasters, the sorcerers etc. This strategy works for every encounter in BG1 and BG2 as well as for other rpgs out there. Rinse, lather, repeat.

Everyone Bioware and D&D game I've played have had the same repetetive gameplay and combat. Luckily, I don't play games for the combat; play games for the stories I do.
 

Lesifoere

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aries202 said:
Everyone Bioware and D&D game I've played have had the same repetetive gameplay and combat. Luckily, I don't play games for the combat; play games for the stories I do.

Stop being a retard. No dungeon in any of the IE games was ever as tedious as the compulsory trips through Orzammar/shitshitshit in DA. Even Irenicus' lab is more varied and more interesting than the entirety of DA put together.

As for playing them for the stories? Shit, they don't even offer very good ones.
 

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