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Meaningful games? Jonathan Blow thinks it's possible.

Herbert West

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I stumbled upon a very interesting read at Gamasutra. It's an article about the state, influence, possibilities and future of gaming industry and gaming in general:

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_i ... tory=16392

If you're not into serious read about games and gaming, you'll be pleased to know that there is some rather hars critique of World of Warcraft, Bioshock and Hal0 3 containded within :wink:
 

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"Many of these assumptions, he asserted, are damaging, founded in the fabric of tradition and consistently reinforced by a lifetime of games. Blow proposed a fresh mindset and the need for a new perspective on game design, with the goal of fostering enhanced creativity and deeper, more meaningful games."

I quit reading after this paragraph. My chauvinist mind is incapable of understanding what any of that means...
 

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Yet another sensible Gamasutra article that doesn't really herald anything new for those of us in the same frame of mind as the author. Worth a read though.
 

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Lyric Suite said:
"Many of these assumptions, he asserted, are damaging, founded in the fabric of tradition and consistently reinforced by a lifetime of games. Blow proposed a fresh mindset and the need for a new perspective on game design, with the goal of fostering enhanced creativity and deeper, more meaningful games."

I quit reading after this paragraph. My chauvinist mind is incapable of understanding what any of that means...

I know sentences like those from my time at high school; one writes them to make a paper be longer and look more serious. They do not mean anything at all.
 

Higher Game

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Lyric Suite said:
"Many of these assumptions, he asserted, are damaging, founded in the fabric of tradition and consistently reinforced by a lifetime of games. Blow proposed a fresh mindset and the need for a new perspective on game design, with the goal of fostering enhanced creativity and deeper, more meaningful games."

I quit reading after this paragraph. My chauvinist mind is incapable of understanding what any of that means...

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English is a soulless, utilitarian language favored by equally soulless, commercial republics. It was born from over a thousand years of multiculturalism and mass upheaval. It is designed to help sophistic capitalists manipulate people instead of working in an organic society. It's a shame I'm not from a purer culture.
 

Lord Chambers

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Matt7895 said:
I think KC summed it up for me thar.
I think KC's picture is a direct reply to Higher Game spewing bunkerisms.

Lyric Suite said:
"Many of these assumptions, he asserted, are damaging, founded in the fabric of tradition and consistently reinforced by a lifetime of games. Blow proposed a fresh mindset and the need for a new perspective on game design, with the goal of fostering enhanced creativity and deeper, more meaningful games."

I quit reading after this paragraph. My chauvinist mind is incapable of understanding what any of that means...
It may be bloated and lacking good style, but it should be easily understood by anyone college educated.

There are assumptions. Blow says these assumptions are strong after a lifetime of games. Blow suggests we question these assumptions. Abandoning these assumptions might help create more creative, deep, and meaningful games.
 

Kruno

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I can't believe KC is in this thread!

So what has JB been up to? Last I heard he was making his own language.
 

J1M

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I can't believe KC is in this thread!

So what has JB been up to? Last I heard he was making his own language.
It's called Jai. He's also building a game engine and two games with it to demonstrate the language is viable. His next game appears to be a thorough examination of block pushing puzzles, so although I expect it to be good it may not resonate with a general audience.
 

Higher Game

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English is a soulless, utilitarian language favored by equally soulless, commercial republics. It was born from over a thousand years of multiculturalism and mass upheaval. It is designed to help sophistic capitalists manipulate people instead of working in an organic society. It's a shame I'm not from a purer culture.
Why you think so exactly?

Also, have you tried Portuguese? It is the superior latin language

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_relativity

But learning a new language is like learning a new martial art, not worth it if you are already fluent in a flawed art. :negative:
 

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English is a soulless, utilitarian language favored by equally soulless, commercial republics. It was born from over a thousand years of multiculturalism and mass upheaval. It is designed to help sophistic capitalists manipulate people instead of working in an organic society. It's a shame I'm not from a purer culture.
Why you think so exactly?

Also, have you tried Portuguese? It is the superior latin language

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_relativity

But learning a new language is like learning a new martial art, not worth it if you are already fluent in a flawed art. :negative:
I'm not sure this is true.

What, why not? Its a beautiful language. Are you not aware of your potential? You can learn anything if you set your mind to it. Well, I can. Maybe you do, maybe you don't.

I can read Spanish, but cannot comprehend it spoken because it's simply too fast. This is apparently rare, as most people are more comfortable speaking a second language than trying to read it. I have no idea why.
 

J1M

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The cadence of English is related to region as well. People from Texas speak at like half the rate as people from India. Might be something cultural about how likely people are to be interrupted if they stop making sounds.
 
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English is the best language for all purposes, except incomprehensible technical manuals, which should be written in german and just be one extremely long word. Of course german is just proto-english before it took all the best parts of all the latin based languages. And obviously the latin based languages are just obsolete now.

Asian languages were a swing and a miss, nice try fellas but other people did a better job. Other languages are just irrelevant and can be ignored.
 

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