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Mage Vs. Wizard & Thief Vs. Rogue

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It was already well explained so I'm just gonna say I prefer the wizard from the magic classes because aquiring your magic skills by rigorous study is cooler than being born with it or being a gay druid. But I do like the Paladin that purges evil with his divine powers.
 

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The ways they are used in games are mysterious and not always can be explained logically.
But based on pure etymology rogue and wizard seem to be more broad terms, which include particular examples of thief and mage respectively.

A rogue is any mischievous guy that disregards norms of moral or lawful conduct.
The thief is a rogue who steals shit. The bard is a rogue who steals women hearts.

A wizard is any wisened or educated man, a scholar.
The mage is a wizard who is gay adept in magic.
 

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Mage and Rogue are catch-all terms

based on pure etymology rogue and wizard seem to be more broad terms

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"Wizard" sounds cooler than "mage". Non-nerds don't even know what a "mage" is. "Magic user" also sounds inelegant to me; reminds me of shounen manga, where they can never come up with a unique name for the characters who possess the trademark ability besides "x user" (stand user, ki user, etc). In my opinion, if you use magic, you're a fucking wizard.
Wizards need at least one of two things, though: A robe, or a wizard hat.

It was already well explained so I'm just gonna say I prefer the wizard from the magic classes because aquiring your magic skills by rigorous study is cooler than being born with it or being a gay druid. But I do like the Paladin that purges evil with his divine powers.
Acquiring magic skills by rigorous study is just a dorky nerd power fantasy. unsubstantiated by any of the mythological sources from which fantasy draws from. You WISH you could acquire magic powers that way. Even Gandalf isn't a wizard because he studied at Wizard-U. He's a wizard because he's magic.
 

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The term rogue imply a side meaning of operating alone unlike Thief which is just a name of a profession. This one just mean a better name, is all.

Wizard is better than mage because by that time they differentiate many type of wizards following their schools, as well as a generalist Wizard. So follow the latter way to calling has some more use.
 

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Acquiring magic skills by rigorous study is just a dorky nerd power fantasy. unsubstantiated by any of the mythological sources from which fantasy draws from.
Not quite, not quite. The kabbalists, for example, are supposedly gaining their powers through extensive study. The hermeticists likewise.
...and how is that not a dorky nerd power fantasy?
 

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Acquiring magic skills by rigorous study is just a dorky nerd power fantasy. unsubstantiated by any of the mythological sources from which fantasy draws from.
Not quite, not quite. The kabbalists, for example, are supposedly gaining their powers through extensive study. The hermeticists likewise.
...and how is that not a dorky nerd power fantasy?
It is, but at the same time those are some of the mythological sources from which fantasy draws from :)
 

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five editions of D&D
There's only 3 editions of D&D. D&D Basic and its revisions, AD&D 1E, and AD&D 2E. I don't see where you get those extra editions from. ;)
  1. Original Dungeons & Dragons (1974)
  2. Holmes Basic D&D (1977)
  3. Advanced D&D (1977-9)
  4. Moldvay/Cook B/X D&D (1981)
  5. Mentzer BECMI D&D (1983-6)
  6. AD&D 2nd edition (1989)
Six glorious editions +M
 

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five editions of D&D
There's only 3 editions of D&D. D&D Basic and its revisions, AD&D 1E, and AD&D 2E. I don't see where you get those extra editions from. ;)
  1. Original Dungeons & Dragons (1974)
  2. Holmes Basic D&D (1977)
  3. Advanced D&D (1977-9)
  4. Moldvay/Cook B/X D&D (1981)
  5. Mentzer BECMI D&D (1983-6)
  6. AD&D 2nd edition (1989)
Six glorious editions +M

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