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Wizardry Long Live Wizardry! (And The All-New Games By Ex-Wizardry Developers)
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Elttharion
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I refuse to believe that's not a money laundering scheme. I like how the presentation has been inspired by ToTFL at least.
Casual Hero
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Prisoners of the Battles freaking rocks.
The loot randomization system is seriously so addicting, and completely reinvigorated my love for the dungeon-crawl. The Steam release of PotB also looks so crispy and high-quality, especially in comparison to the unfortunate remake of Wizardry PGotMO that we just got.
Has anyone here played The Absence of Misericordia? I understand that it is supposed to be a more straight-forward and traditional Wizardry scenario. Do you think it is worth buying and playing?
I'm especially curious about the new soundtrack that the Steam page is talking about. Was this new music present in the original scenario, or is it brand-new for this Steam DLC?
I wasn't really thrilled with any of the Five Ordeals scenarios, even though I love the game engine that they are built in, whereas I totally fell in love with Prisoners of the Battles (seriously, I think I like it more than Wizardry: Proving Grounds). Where would The Absence of Misericordia fall on this spectrum?
The loot randomization system is seriously so addicting, and completely reinvigorated my love for the dungeon-crawl. The Steam release of PotB also looks so crispy and high-quality, especially in comparison to the unfortunate remake of Wizardry PGotMO that we just got.
Has anyone here played The Absence of Misericordia? I understand that it is supposed to be a more straight-forward and traditional Wizardry scenario. Do you think it is worth buying and playing?
I'm especially curious about the new soundtrack that the Steam page is talking about. Was this new music present in the original scenario, or is it brand-new for this Steam DLC?
I wasn't really thrilled with any of the Five Ordeals scenarios, even though I love the game engine that they are built in, whereas I totally fell in love with Prisoners of the Battles (seriously, I think I like it more than Wizardry: Proving Grounds). Where would The Absence of Misericordia fall on this spectrum?
Casual Hero
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I got bored during class today, and started thinking about what makes a good map in a Wizardry game.
I've talked about the first floor of Wizardry 1 before, and that is kind of my mental reference when I think about good first level design. The first floor of the Proving Grounds is split up into 4 rough quarters, and each of these 4 parts of the map feature slightly different types of maze design. Because of this, I feel like it is relatively easy to orient yourself, as each part of the map has its own "feel".
I decided to start drawing, as if I was designing the first floor of a new Wizardry-clone. I've essentially copied everything that I could think of that Wizardry 1 does in its first floor; 4 segmented areas that feature distinct styles, and slowly introducing new gameplay mechanics. While the actual architecture of my map probably isn't perfect, I think I did pretty good at capturing the correct philosophy.
Assume that behind every door, there is a chance to encounter a monster guarding a chest, just like classic Wizardry.
The player starts at 0,0, as tradition dictates. Directly down the hall to the east are the stairs that lead to level 2, but the door is locked. In order to unlock this door, you have to get the key which is kept at 11,3. This is notated by the star.
The opening area is similar to the bottom-left quadrant of Wizardry 1: long hallways and doors that lead to very simple single rooms. Good for grinding and gathering gold when you're just starting out.
The red area above this is characterized by connected square rooms, with lots of doors (and consequently, lots of potential encounters). These connected square rooms might be a little disorienting for a new player, but it is actually very simple and quick to map out in actual play.
In order to actually progress, the player must make their way to the upper-right blue area. Here we have a very simple and open maze structure. Because of the lack of rooms, the main focus here is on mapping it out. I think that I could have added some dark areas to this location to make it a little more interesting. Eventually, the player will find the one-way teleporter 1 which will take them to 2. After exploring the small annex area at the top here, the player teleports one-way from 3 to 4.
Now the player ends up in the green area in the bottom-right, which is only accessible via the one-way portals. Here, they will find the key to Floor 2. This area also slowly introduces the player to one-way doors, which they will eventually find plops them back out into the starting yellow area. Hopefully this will feel like an "Aha!" moment. The player will be able to quickly rest up in town from here, and then jump straight to the second Floor. You won't need to back-track through the entire floor again to get back to the stairs.
And... now I kind of want to draw another 9 maps to go with this.
I've talked about the first floor of Wizardry 1 before, and that is kind of my mental reference when I think about good first level design. The first floor of the Proving Grounds is split up into 4 rough quarters, and each of these 4 parts of the map feature slightly different types of maze design. Because of this, I feel like it is relatively easy to orient yourself, as each part of the map has its own "feel".
I decided to start drawing, as if I was designing the first floor of a new Wizardry-clone. I've essentially copied everything that I could think of that Wizardry 1 does in its first floor; 4 segmented areas that feature distinct styles, and slowly introducing new gameplay mechanics. While the actual architecture of my map probably isn't perfect, I think I did pretty good at capturing the correct philosophy.
Assume that behind every door, there is a chance to encounter a monster guarding a chest, just like classic Wizardry.
The player starts at 0,0, as tradition dictates. Directly down the hall to the east are the stairs that lead to level 2, but the door is locked. In order to unlock this door, you have to get the key which is kept at 11,3. This is notated by the star.
The opening area is similar to the bottom-left quadrant of Wizardry 1: long hallways and doors that lead to very simple single rooms. Good for grinding and gathering gold when you're just starting out.
The red area above this is characterized by connected square rooms, with lots of doors (and consequently, lots of potential encounters). These connected square rooms might be a little disorienting for a new player, but it is actually very simple and quick to map out in actual play.
In order to actually progress, the player must make their way to the upper-right blue area. Here we have a very simple and open maze structure. Because of the lack of rooms, the main focus here is on mapping it out. I think that I could have added some dark areas to this location to make it a little more interesting. Eventually, the player will find the one-way teleporter 1 which will take them to 2. After exploring the small annex area at the top here, the player teleports one-way from 3 to 4.
Now the player ends up in the green area in the bottom-right, which is only accessible via the one-way portals. Here, they will find the key to Floor 2. This area also slowly introduces the player to one-way doors, which they will eventually find plops them back out into the starting yellow area. Hopefully this will feel like an "Aha!" moment. The player will be able to quickly rest up in town from here, and then jump straight to the second Floor. You won't need to back-track through the entire floor again to get back to the stairs.
And... now I kind of want to draw another 9 maps to go with this.
Sacibengala
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https://youtu.be/NHJLPOhOAW8
New Wizardry Variants: Daphne gameplay. Looks good.
https://wizardry.wiki.gg/wiki/Wizardry_Variants_Daphne
free to play is a real bummer, though.
New Wizardry Variants: Daphne gameplay. Looks good.
https://wizardry.wiki.gg/wiki/Wizardry_Variants_Daphne
free to play is a real bummer, though.
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KeighnMcDeath
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Ios? Is it region locked to Japan only? I get nada.
Sacibengala
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It will come to steam as well.
Casual Hero
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I really wish we could play Wizardry: Dimguil. 
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You canI really wish we could play Wizardry: Dimguil.
Casual Hero
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Is there an easier method than using a translation app + phone camera?
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Not at the moment
Puukko
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https://ztranslate.net/
I only fiddled around with this once and I don't think I tried it on Dimguil, just V...? The results then were less than stellar but could be it works better now and I presume a PSX game would have cleaner text.
Sacibengala
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Isn't this the one next inline for the guys from five ordeal to translate?I really wish we could play Wizardry: Dimguil.
Casual Hero
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I haven't heard anything about that. It's a PS1 game, so they'd have to port it first anyways.Isn't this the one next inline for the guys from five ordeal to translate?I really wish we could play Wizardry: Dimguil.
Dimguil has been on my bucket list for years. I love the dark fantasy art in that game, how absolutely demonic and deranged the encounters look, and the overall eldritch horror aesthetic. I may try it with ztranslate at some point if it doesn't get picked up for translation.
KeighnMcDeath
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Damn shame about the OP, pic links are fucked up. Someone didn’t pay their Photobucket bill.
KeighnMcDeath
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I'm going to play Daphne on PC, but I'll do pre-registration anyways when it opens up to get a peek at what it's like while it's stuck on mobile.
A recent interview with the director for Daphne. It's short and elegant, and worth a watch.
KeighnMcDeath
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I'm waiting for the rest of the Scooby Gang: Velma, Fred, Shaggy, and Scooby. Now get nekkid and dance Daph... DANCE!
newtmonkey
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There is nothing short and elegant about some corporate drone going on and on for 14 minutes about smartphone trash that has the Wizardry name attached. It is, in fact, the exact opposite: long and tasteless.
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KeighnMcDeath
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Is she fuckable? Daphne I mean.
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