How many people pirate specifically to avoid buying said game?

[damicore]

Nah,It's ok, you're just a bad american cliché.
Have a good night.

 

[Renegen]

I hold a large vendetta against the "man". If you're talking about a good RPG, I'll pay for it. If you're talking about the other 90% of games, I pirate them. I pirate games that I wouldn't have bought anyway. I wasn't always like that, I used to pirate with no shame, but then I realized supporting games you really love is more fun.

 

[MetalCraze]

You either pay or you pirate. The question is retarded and so is OP.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Oh man, I had a Dynavision. That was the shit. Famiclones forever. :singletear:

Zeebo is just regular shit, though. Couldn't even play the games (Prey, Need for Speed and some other one) when I tried it on a mall, controls were wack and the image was comically blurred.

edit: I thought the Dynavision Cybergame was kinda interesting and looked for more information about it. Turns out it's a true BR console.

Amigo, também fui um infeliz comprador desse console. Gostaria de saber se você conseguiu devolver e como você entrou em contato com eles.
Pois nem no site e nem nos telefones que eles informam não consegui.
O site não abre a Central de Atendimento e os telefones, um não chama e outro não atende…
NÃO INDICO A NINGUÉM COMPRAR ISSO!!

 

[Achilles]

Haven't read so much holier-than-thou stuck-up bullshit from one single Codexer in a while. B+. Would read again.

I think you may have misunderstood me. I wasn't trying to be pretentious or imply that my opinion represents that of everyone my age. I'll try to distill my argument further:

- I don't have a lot of free time anymore.
- I play much fewer games as a result.
- I tend to clear my games backlog before buying new games.
- by the time I get to buying a game I'm interested in, its price has fallen dramatically.

I really can't see why anyone would think these facts are indicative of a stuck-up of holier-than-thou attitude. I never brought any moral issues into the discussion.

 

[villain of the story]

Me neither. Somehow I thought you were saying it was wrong(tm) or whatever. Apologies Alehandro, my fellow man. I have gigantic butthurts screwing with my state of mind these days. I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive your fellow Codexer.

 

[Achilles]

 

[octavius]

I haven't pirated a game since my Amiga games.
Now I can afford to buy any game I like, except there are so few games that sound interesting, and those that do are infected with DRM. So if I were to pirate a game it would be due to the very thing that is designed to prevent piracy but which only ruins the fun for an honest gamer.

 

[Metro]

 

[DwarvenFood]

I used to pirate games because I could get them for free so why buy.. and the scene was interesting in those days. Now, I have money to actually buy games that I like and I also live in the false illusion that by buying games of certain kind will eventually produce more games of said kind.

Now, it's only when the game does not have a demo. If it's good, I'll buy it anyway.

If a game has shitty DRM and I would really want to play it, I will pirate it, but there has been no such game until now. (I do not consider Steam DRM).

 

[Infinitron]

Hey, that channel is pretty awesome.

 

[attackfighter]

I pirate games that I wouldn't otherwise play if they weren't hot topics on the 'dex. So basically Bioware games, bethesderp games, and all other mediocre RPGs that get 15 billion threads around here.

 

[Gord]

I'm with Alexandros and Azrael on this.
Since I've got more money and less time I buy games I'm interested enough in.
If I'm unsure I wait until it's cheap enough to make it interesting. Only very rarely I pirate for demo (last time was about 2 years ago), usually I find it's easy enough to get some idea about the game, especially if you are willing to wait a while.

I did pirate a lot of games back in school and the first few years at uni, though, simply because I couldn't afford buying more than a few games/year (and it was before the flood of discounted games we get today).
However, I can't stand pretentious idiots who insist that them pirating games is really a way to stick it to the man or such shit.

 

[Destroid]

What's wrong, Gord? Don't you like sticking it to the Man?

 

[Gord]

No, I'm really a Sneering Imperialist.

 

[Unkillable Cat]

HUEHUAHUE!

Da fuck is dis? You searched on wikipedia how to BR laugh? "Brazilians tends to interpose the HUE with a HUA, and a polite laugh should never exceed 10 letters". Mash those keyboards man! UAHDSUHAUDHUIDHIUSHDIUASHDIUASHDIHSADIUISUCHUSIUASIUDHIASDUHUHUHIUHAIU

I still remember the South Korean laughter: KEKEKEKEKEKEKEKE.

But on the topic, I very rarely pirate games nowadays, and it's almost exclusively for the "try before you buy" reason. I think I pirated about 2-3 games last year, and I deleted all of them afterwards. I'm getting pretty good at telling which games will interest me, and which ones won't, but I have 25 years of gaming experience behind me.

The big "AAA"-titles from the big publishers don't interest me because, among other things, there's too much DRM involved. Instead of pirating those titles, I ignore them completely. No purchase, no publicity, no "word-of-mouth", no nothing. That's my reaction to the watered-down pieces of shit they spend tens of millions on developing.

 

[Skittles]

Damn, I missed the SA politically charged shit-slinging.

I'll pirate games I purchased back in the day, unless they're on GOG. I wonder if it could ever be popular enough to make publishers and developers sit up and take notice:

-Good, polished games will sell for years
-DRM free is a bonus
-Price elasticity of demand is totally a thing

I guess Steam has kind of worked this out, but it runs poorly on my rig, I don't like ever using it in online mode for all the auto-update crap, and there's still a lot of shit that seems to flow through that pipe.

 

[Kitako]

I hate piracy for a long time, but in the last years I found I hate more DRM. So far to download bad games with horribly invasive DRM just to seed them, without even installing.

If the publisher/developer doesn't fuck the customer with DRM that hurts more the legit users, I'm more than happy to spend my hard earned money to support a product I enjoy. "Vote with your wallet" kind of thing.

Also, I use to download games when demo is not avaiable. Why the fuck they stopped making demos? If I like the demo, I will buy the game, otherwise I just uninstall it.

 

[Papa Môlé]

I pirate to serve my Lord and Master Satan. I was going to go on a childrape spree, but it turns out this piracy stuff is more evil now. I mean why else penalize it worse? It seems like it's okay to joke about the former now too in public or in popular media but not so with piracy, so I can only deduct from these facts that Great Beelzebub will be more pleased by my sharing of files on the internet than any kind of passe personal violence against a non-corporate individual.

 

[commie]

I pirate to try and am also broke as fuck or rather my wife takes a dim view of my 'hobby' so it's hard to justify a full priced purchase. But the boys from Brazil said it best:

1. I don't want to deal with DRM. Cracks are much simpler and don't lock you out of your game because you've run out of activations or the server is down.
2. Prices are abusive for most games over here and don't drop as fast as in other parts of the world. I can still find lots of games from over a year ago being sold for their original prices.
3. I hate the concept of DLCs. I want to have the whole package, not an incomplete product that I have to keep buying its pieces afterwards. DA:O Warden's Keep, anyone?
4. Most games are shit and bugged to hell. It's amazing we still don't have some sort of legislation of software product quality control, like every other product you buy does.

Fellow BR nailed it down pretty well. Prices in Brazil are insane, and they never fucking decrease.

GOG and Steam actually made me pirate less, now that I can buy games online and pay in dollar. Fallout: NV is being sold for R$ 100,00 here (US$ 50), but I bought it for US$ 8.99 on Steam. On the old days I would bitch about how I want to own the physical copy, box & manual, but I don't give a fuck for those cheap packages & no manual kit that games are sold nowadays.

But I still get the TPB edition of games that I do not trust and wanna give a try. If I enjoy it a lot, I wait for the price to decrease and buy it online.

This. I don't like digitally purchasing a game and having it tied to an account that can be closed at any time without notice. I want physical copies of my games so that I can install them anytime I want or trade them with someone else or even break the discs out of spite.

I gave up on that with those shitty packages of today. Besides, my Fallout 1 cd stopped working and made me rage on cd media. I still keep its glorious box & huge manual though.

Only the odd collector's edition of a game I really like(which is what would be bog standard in the 90's: A big manual? Ye Gods!) or something like a flight simulator or deep strategy would I really buy when newish but only if it came with a big ass manual. Otherwise what you pirate is no worse than what you get legally online or even a physical copy which often still requires Steam and comes just in a DVD case with no extras. The only real advantage to buying these days is that with buggy stuff out often a scene group can't be arsed to crack a patch 40 times and so you end up having to pay to get a fixed game, but that's rare as most companies don't give a shit about fixing things.

Funny thing is if we got stuff like Interplay/Microprose/EA(Jane's) would release in the 90's, I'd buy a lot more games when new rather than waiting for a bargain bin reissue as there's no difference these days between a new release and a cheapo
DVD case with nothing but a DVD and electronic manual. I've actually started to scour the used games' market for old games in their original boxes with manuals and shit just to have to go with my pirate or GoG versions. It's so much more enjoyable to have a manual to flip through while learning to fly a simulator or getting info on spell combinations or mechanics in Master of Magic without having to ALT+TAB to a fucking pdf.