Grimoire gameplay and hints thread

[agentorange]

need a hint

Spoiler

I killed the mummy in Aquavia and got the seal of Loogmar. I asked Smithers about his father and got the quest to find the marques/found out about Samhain. I picked the lock to the Catacombs, explored it, killed the ungrateful dead, found the tomb of Mistral. I can't figure out what to do next/where to go. I assume I'm supposed to place Mistrals remains in his tomb but I can't get into the Cenotaph, where Mistral disappeared. I've been to the Tomb of Saint George and found the inscription telling me that a secret entrance to Samhain is in the NW of the Garden, but it is seemingly describing the entrance to the Cenotaph, which I can't get into. Do I have everything I need at this point to get to where I need to go?

You missed something in the Catacombs.

Spoiler

Recall that the Bishop was involved in sealing the Cenotaph.

Ah, seems so obvious now. Thank you.

 

[mondblut]

Interesting. So if you give (or show, rather) Lachesis to Morgana, she'll pass you an invitation to join the druid cult. Haven't looked what happens further on, but anyone tried to actually give it to Mordecai (and maybe steal afterwards, lol)?

On a related note, if you give Tome of the Spider to Gorlo, steal it and give it to him again, he gets angry and sics soldiers at you.

 

[Valky]

How puzzle-centric is the game? I like that it looks like dungeon crawling is the main focus but I'm also a fan of high saturation of old-skool puzzles and riddles around every corner.

 

[Nekot-The-Brave]

How puzzle-centric is the game? I like that it looks like dungeon crawling is the main focus but I'm also a fan of high saturation of old-skool puzzles and riddles around every corner.

There are riddles around every corner.

 

[Viata]

I really think being able to Multi-class only at level 10 is a really bad idea.

 

[YES!]

Interesting. So if you give (or show, rather) Lachesis to Morgana, she'll pass you an invitation to join the druid cult. Haven't looked what happens further on, but anyone tried to actually give it to Mordecai (and maybe steal afterwards, lol)?

On a related note, if you give Tome of the Spider to Gorlo, steal it and give it to him again, he gets angry and sics soldiers at you.

That happens with a lot of stuff, like armory key and Krone, etc. The only people that didn't attack me where the Templar guy and his catechism book (unencrypted so easy to get sword with it) and Smithers with the letter of marque. They do have dialogue but don't attack.

 

[YES!]

How puzzle-centric is the game? I like that it looks like dungeon crawling is the main focus but I'm also a fan of high saturation of old-skool puzzles and riddles around every corner.

There are lots of puzzles in the Wiz7 way. Tons of them all over the place. Ridiculous amounts.

 

[YES!]

Just FYI - I tried using the decline editor to add the owl statue and it worked (added to an empty hand slot of my hth fighter) for everything but actually using it. I can id it, Rosy says I'm important for having it, but when I try and put it in the window thing it goes it crashes the game. Oh well, I'm happy with my skull, I'd rather have help later. It just bothers me how low the % explored of that map is. Same with the rainbow bridge area. I spend a good amount of time trying to get on those two tiles in the abyss.

 

[mondblut]

I really think being able to Multi-class only at level 10 is a really bad idea.

It would be alright if stats would not drop to default. Sort of like Wiz8 or 3e D&D prestige classes, sans free stacking whatever class levels you fancy at any given time (which is pretty dumb idea). But resetting stats ruins it.

 

[Zep Zepo]

Just FYI - I tried using the decline editor to add the owl statue and it worked (added to an empty hand slot of my hth fighter) for everything but actually using it. I can id it, Rosy says I'm important for having it, but when I try and put it in the window thing it goes it crashes the game. Oh well, I'm happy with my skull, I'd rather have help later. It just bothers me how low the % explored of that map is. Same with the rainbow bridge area. I spend a good amount of time trying to get on those two tiles in the abyss.

Drop it on the ground...far right square after inventory, then pick it up. It will reset the item stats on it (which I haven't quit figured out yet).

Let me know if that works.

Zep--

 

[YES!]

Just FYI - I tried using the decline editor to add the owl statue and it worked (added to an empty hand slot of my hth fighter) for everything but actually using it. I can id it, Rosy says I'm important for having it, but when I try and put it in the window thing it goes it crashes the game. Oh well, I'm happy with my skull, I'd rather have help later. It just bothers me how low the % explored of that map is. Same with the rainbow bridge area. I spend a good amount of time trying to get on those two tiles in the abyss.

Drop it on the ground...far right square after inventory, then pick it up. It will reset the item stats on it (which I haven't quit figured out yet).

Let me know if that works.

Zep--

I tried that after the 1st crash. I also tried dropping it, zoning out, zoning into Avalon or whatever the dungeon near it is, saving, exiting the game, restarting, trying to put other things in the window, picking it up and putting the owl in the window, picking it up putting it in my inventory and then the window, and about a million other things. Nothing works.

 

[Zep Zepo]

Just FYI - I tried using the decline editor to add the owl statue and it worked (added to an empty hand slot of my hth fighter) for everything but actually using it. I can id it, Rosy says I'm important for having it, but when I try and put it in the window thing it goes it crashes the game. Oh well, I'm happy with my skull, I'd rather have help later. It just bothers me how low the % explored of that map is. Same with the rainbow bridge area. I spend a good amount of time trying to get on those two tiles in the abyss.

Drop it on the ground...far right square after inventory, then pick it up. It will reset the item stats on it (which I haven't quit figured out yet).

Let me know if that works.

Zep--

I tried that after the 1st crash. I also tried dropping it, zoning out, zoning into Avalon or whatever the dungeon near it is, saving, exiting the game, restarting, trying to put other things in the window, picking it up and putting the owl in the window, picking it up putting it in my inventory and then the window, and about a million other things. Nothing works.

Ok, thanks. I will test that out today myself and see if I can figure out why.

Zep--

 

[DarKPenguiN]

Someone please help-

Whats the code for the computer in sanctuary- I know where to find it but since ive restarted this version its not there anymore.

I remember it starts with "A" I think but thats it.

 

[Zep Zepo]

Just FYI - I tried using the decline editor to add the owl statue and it worked (added to an empty hand slot of my hth fighter) for everything but actually using it. I can id it, Rosy says I'm important for having it, but when I try and put it in the window thing it goes it crashes the game. Oh well, I'm happy with my skull, I'd rather have help later. It just bothers me how low the % explored of that map is. Same with the rainbow bridge area. I spend a good amount of time trying to get on those two tiles in the abyss.

Drop it on the ground...far right square after inventory, then pick it up. It will reset the item stats on it (which I haven't quit figured out yet).

Let me know if that works.

Zep--

I tried that after the 1st crash. I also tried dropping it, zoning out, zoning into Avalon or whatever the dungeon near it is, saving, exiting the game, restarting, trying to put other things in the window, picking it up and putting the owl in the window, picking it up putting it in my inventory and then the window, and about a million other things. Nothing works.

Think I figured it out. Have to set one of the flags on it. Haven't actually tested it yet, but comparing the 2 items (original and added via Decline) I think I see the problem.

Zep--

 

[agentorange]

Someone please help-

Whats the code for the computer in sanctuary- I know where to find it but since ive restarted this version its not there anymore.

I remember it starts with "A" I think but thats it.

Spoiler

abend

 

[Viata]

So regard recruiting NPC:

Spoiler

There is a NPC that said she would help me find something important, but I have to recruit her. Mindreader doesn't provide anything that is not (you must recruit me to do that) and I can't even fight her. I really hope I'm not forced to recruit her.

 

[Zep Zepo]

Just FYI - I tried using the decline editor to add the owl statue and it worked (added to an empty hand slot of my hth fighter) for everything but actually using it. I can id it, Rosy says I'm important for having it, but when I try and put it in the window thing it goes it crashes the game. Oh well, I'm happy with my skull, I'd rather have help later. It just bothers me how low the % explored of that map is. Same with the rainbow bridge area. I spend a good amount of time trying to get on those two tiles in the abyss.

Drop it on the ground...far right square after inventory, then pick it up. It will reset the item stats on it (which I haven't quit figured out yet).

Let me know if that works.

Zep--

I tried that after the 1st crash. I also tried dropping it, zoning out, zoning into Avalon or whatever the dungeon near it is, saving, exiting the game, restarting, trying to put other things in the window, picking it up and putting the owl in the window, picking it up putting it in my inventory and then the window, and about a million other things. Nothing works.

Think I figured it out. Have to set one of the flags on it. Haven't actually tested it yet, but comparing the 2 items (original and added via Decline) I think I see the problem.

Zep--

Good news: That was the problem. I Set the flags correctly (in an external program from Decline) and I was able to use it.

Bad News: Adding items via the character portrait was just a hack. I will have to add dedicated inventory adding to Decline to set the correct flags. Probably be done in a few days.

Zep--

 

[Haba]

Interesting. So if you give (or show, rather) Lachesis to Morgana, she'll pass you an invitation to join the druid cult

Their hippie cult is hell-bent on destroying the tablets. If you try to enter their lair normally, they'll turn hostile.

 

[YES!]

So regard recruiting NPC:

Spoiler

There is a NPC that said she would help me find something important, but I have to recruit her. Mindreader doesn't provide anything that is not (you must recruit me to do that) and I can't even fight her. I really hope I'm not forced to recruit her.

Nice, I was hoping there were npcs with content. I knew I felt good about making a 6 man party and felt Cleve would come through for me.

 

[YES!]

Okay, I found my first what I think is a Arcanum spell. It does nothing when I try to scribe it. It says I scribe it Hermetic Gag, and that it is not in my spell book. My Arcanum does not go up, and neither do I get insane. I tried to scribe 50 times on all characters (that can learn spells) with and without read magic. Absolutely nothing happened.

 

[Viata]

So regard recruiting NPC:

Spoiler

There is a NPC that said she would help me find something important, but I have to recruit her. Mindreader doesn't provide anything that is not (you must recruit me to do that) and I can't even fight her. I really hope I'm not forced to recruit her.

Nice, I was hoping there were npcs with content. I knew I felt good about making a 6 man party and felt Cleve would come through for me.

Well, I found another one and so far I have been able to do the quest without his help, so I don't know if they really help you or if you really need them or just something Cleve added to make you want them in your part.

 

[Lady_Error]

Okay, I found my first what I think is a Arcanum spell. It does nothing when I try to scribe it. It says I scribe it Hermetic Gag, and that it is not in my spell book. My Arcanum does not go up, and neither do I get insane. I tried to scribe 50 times on all characters (that can learn spells) with and without read magic. Absolutely nothing happened.

Usually you should get a message: either did not succeed scribing or can't learn this spell (wrong class). You go insane only when scribing Eldritch spellbooks.

 

[Viata]

Okay, I found my first what I think is a Arcanum spell. It does nothing when I try to scribe it. It says I scribe it Hermetic Gag, and that it is not in my spell book. My Arcanum does not go up, and neither do I get insane. I tried to scribe 50 times on all characters (that can learn spells) with and without read magic. Absolutely nothing happened.

Usually you should get a message: either did not succeed scribing or can't learn this spell (wrong class). You go insane only when scribing Eldritch spellbooks.

Nope, my char went insane scribing Arcanum spells. It also went from 10 Arcanum to 87 Arcanum.

 

[Lady_Error]

My progress report with some serious spoilers:

Spoiler

I think I found the Uber-sage Kroondergraaf in the Blackspike mountains. Climbed all the way to the top and then into a cavern that ends in lava fields. I guess I'll need some fireproof boots or magic to go there. Also, killed Lord Ahriman - which was surprising considering he is the ruler of the land. His Vanguard Lt didn't mind or didn't know and handed me my next task. I have to say, Kublai Axis really opens up the options - Skulheim and Fortress of the Dead one way, Blackspike mountains with all sorts of goodies the other way.

 

[Tigranes]

The new version seems good. I finally have a party to have made it more than a smidgen of the way, currently in a deep pit full of corpses. Of course, now I'm tempted to again restart, and leave Rosycheat out.

I still haven't found any weapons worth their salt, so my frontliners have been hand-to-handing it all. Skill points also seem hard to come by, or maybe I rolled badly? Neither my Sage nor Thief at level 4 had enough SP to really have more than 10 on Lockpick and Inspection, for instance, and I'd relied heavily on Rosy for Assay. And of course naught to spare for things like Incantation.