Fallout 4 Pre-Release Discussion [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Backstabber]

I think Sil is a pretty good example of tactical turn-based single player combat that works really well. One of the good things about having only one character available is that stealth actually becomes a very viable option.

 

[TheHeroOfTime]

Where is your God now?

These are very bad offers. I bought all these three games for an extremely low price back in the days lol.

BTW CS GO is very good (and very addictive). Take care of your life.

 

[undecaf]

Single Player turn based is always gonna be limited in tactical choices. Unless you have a lot of meaningful tactical choices to make with controlling that one unit, for example if you were controlling a single space ship that was able to fire multiple weapon systems, manage damage control, manage crew assignments, manage shields, etc... But I don't see how you could add those kind of turn by turn decisions to a game where you control a single dude.

I am of the opinion that you will actually get more tactical combat when controlling only a single character by adding action elements that involve timing. Timing of both the players actions and anticipating enemy timing. Turn based works really well for controlling a party, that is where it really shines IMO, but it is kinda weak when you are only controlling a single character. It is difficult to provide enough tactical choices for a single character/unit that would justify needing to stop and think about it in a turn based manner.

That is true, but I think the real problem rises only if the game at hand is designed to rely on heavy and longwinded trench combat situations and HP grind. A single PC TB combat should revolve around brief and deadly situations where you make quick and crucial decisions with a range of possibilities to choose from (more specific and finetuned character abilities, gear, environment...), rather than strategizing over a 20+ minute campaign for the encounter; and, imo, the game itself try to compensate the relative lack of combat with other gameplay features and possibilities - among them, ways to bypass of further shorten combat.

 

[darthaegis]

Where is your God now?

http://steamspy.com/search.php?s=fallout

Gotta love those gamejourno/user scores

Fallout 3 has a lower user score because Bethtards are butthurt it's not optimized for Windows 7 and doesn't work on a lot of PCs.

 

[Ayreos]

Guys i get it. Everything makes sense now. The lego buildings, the unexplainable pastel paint splattered all over, the voiced protagonist and the excessive focus on the dog. You ARE the dog, and not the vault dweller!

Think of it. Dogs are color blind. And the vault dweller is an npc so of course he's voiced. At this realization i simply cannot contain my hype for Fallout4: The Story of Doge.

Todd, you sly fox, you!

 

[RoBoBOBR]

last reason is the truth

 

[Zombra]

Guys i get it. Everything makes sense now. The lego buildings, the unexplainable pastel paint splattered all over, the voiced protagonist and the excessive focus on the dog. You ARE the dog, and not the vault dweller!

If they actually did something that controversial, I would be 1000x more excited.

 

[Mech]

It has to be a cyber dog so that you can still shoot guns, or the "human" companion is controlled by the dog remotely.

 

[Ludo Lense]

This guy's back, kids.

This guy did manage to give us Morrowind before undergoing his contractually obligated lobotomy, though. Sadly, there actually was a person in there, at some point.

Actually that was largely Kirkbride and Rolston. Todd Howard thought Morrowind will suck and people will hate it.

 

[Multiple Sarcasm]

Actually that was largely Kirkbride and Rolston. Todd Howard thought Morrowind will suck and people will hate it.

He was the project lead, why would he approve designing a game he thought people would hate?

 

[Somberlain]

This guy's back, kids.

Ayyylien Dlc part 2 confirmed
Overlord Todd's Flying Saucers

Aliens? No way, Bethesda is always making things more EPIC and MAJESTIC. Fallout 3 already had aliens and a Lovecraft building, Fallout 4 will have Cthulhu as the final boss. Game takes place in Boston, which is a harbor city, so it's perfect. Cthulhu will rise from the sea and you will fight it with a rapid-firing mini nuke turret in an EPIC fight with massive explosions and QTE dodging.

 

[agentorange]

i hope it has a lot of communism jokes. i can never get enough of those. also jokes about how people in the 50's were stupid.

 

[Ludo Lense]

Actually that was largely Kirkbride and Rolston. Todd Howard thought Morrowind will suck and people will hate it.

He was the project lead, why would he approve designing a game he thought people would hate?

Yes but Rolston was the lead designer. Mr.Howard is pretty much all about style/flashiness and dungeon delving. He only cares about lore in as much as it facilitates reasons to go kill stuff.

Here is Ken taunting Todd Howard's style a bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7lzDYDJT1Q&t=7m4s

 

[Infinitron]

Actually, the comparison between Skyrim and Kingdoms of Amalur has led some to believe that Rolston was the true evil all along.

 

[Metro]

Everyone in this thread will play FO4. Guaranteed.

 

[Ludo Lense]

Actually, the comparison between Skyrim and Kingdoms of Amalur has led some to believe that Rolston was the true evil all along.

I kinda doubt it. Doesn't mean that his comparisons weren't bad but even geniuses can make and say stupid stuff (Ridley Scott's abysmal Gods&Kings). Also Todd pretty much layout his design vision in the "Making of Oblivion" video and Morrowind is pretty far from it.

 

[Infinitron]

Actually, the comparison between Skyrim and Kingdoms of Amalur has led some to believe that Rolston was the true evil all along.

I kinda doubt it. Doesn't mean that his comparisons weren't bad but even geniuses can make and say stupid stuff (Ridley Scott's abysmal Gods&Kings). Also Todd pretty much layout his design vision in the "Making of Oblivion" video and Morrowind is pretty far from it.

OK, but on the other hand, Oblivion had Rolston, Skyrim didn't.

And then I think back to the description of Rolston in this censored interview: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...cal-of-bethesda-rubbed-out.10403/#post-172709

Sure, Todd comes across as a popamoler in that interview, but Ken seems like a guy who had some weird ideology, which is potentially a lot worse.

 

[pippin]

Todd discovered decline when Morrowind's xbox port happened to be as cool (for him) as the pc version.

 

[shiteatingnippledick]

last reason is the truth

Comment on that video.

"I spent about 100-120 hours into Fallout New Vegas and Fallout 3. I never realised that they use bottle caps as their currency."

How the fuck? Are these people lobotomized or something.

 

[Metro]

 

[AW8]

Comment on that video.

"I spent about 100-120 hours into Fallout New Vegas and Fallout 3. I never realised that they use bottle caps as their currency."

How the fuck? Are these people lobotomized or something.

Maybe English isn't his first language, and he thought "caps" was slang for dough? And he never picked up a loose cap in the entire game?

I dunno. :D

 

[Makabb]

Everyone in this thread will play FO4. Guaranteed.

You say it like it's a bad thing.

 

[Somberlain]

Top 100 reasons why that face is punchable.

 

[toro]

Everyone in this thread will play FO4. Guaranteed.

One word: Morbid curiosity.

And even if everyone will play it, it doesn't mean that everyone will buy FO4.

 

[Ismaul]

Everyone in this thread will play FO4. Guaranteed.

Think again. Didn't play Fallout 3, and F:NV wouldn't run on my comp (some sound issue making the game choke).

Even found that Fallout 2 was decline vs Fallout 1. Kung Fu chinese town? Please. Fallout 2 started the theme park shit.