Fallout 4 Pre-Release Discussion [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Genma:TheDestroyer]

Must figure the gun modification system makes up for it.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

When does review embargo go up? I need to prepare popcorn.

 

[Bradylama]

When does review embargo go up? I need to prepare popcorn.

Tomorrow, 8AM EST, everyone's gonna be publishing their Fallout 4 reviews at the same time.

 

[Jick Magger]

I LOVE MY SYNTHETIC GAY SON.

 

[bonescraper]

God damn, those guns are fugly. Especially that "assault rifle" that looks more like a steampunk LMG. Bethesda can't into mechanical design.

 

[Black]

https://a.pomf.cat/drfxjt.mp4
Great AI.

Actually triggered.

 

[DeepOcean]

Bethesda can't into everything.

Now it's more accurate.

 

[Tehdagah]

I DO care about graphics, but more in terms of art direction than meshes/textures resolution.

Take Silent Hill2:

Spoiler

It still looks great after all these years, without shitworks and tons of eye-melting post processing filters. It seems like back in the day game designers focused more on the overall mood; lighting, colors, music etc. as one big picture rather than separate elements.

Great? Really? It looks moody but not great.

Bad textures hurt a good art. The characters didn't age well too.

 

[Surf Solar]

Gotta say, the combat is allright. All enemies have a different gimmick to them, Molerats swarm you in packs, two attack from front, other will dig into ground to reappear behind you, ghouls are very fast, deal radiation damage and dont dodge attacks while not caring for missing limbs. Mutants have suicide bombers that are faster than others chasing you with a ticking bomb allahu ackbaring you. Their dogs seem to have high perception making sneaking more harder. Depending on rank, human enemies will flank and take cover (melee humans are still retarded though). If you sit in cover they throw grenades. Radscorpions absolutely tear you apart.

The game is also a lot harder than FO3. In fo3 you could kill mutants easily with level 1, you can forget that in 4. The mutants you saw on the stream were just the standard mooks with crappy damage reduction and weaponry. We've died pretty often so far, playing on hard

I can also confirm that all this minecraft stuff is not mandatory aside the tutorial, same as the early power armor is just a tease, as it is now sitting useless at the homebase.

There are some mild C&C in dialogues, pretty big amount of npc have a 'like-o-meter' that changes depending on your actions and dialogue choices. 'Codsworth likes this' for example. Yeah.

Haven't seen that much of the world so far. Graphics seem to be ugly in stills but ok in motion, the lighting system can produce some very nice atmospheres.

Diamond city is nice. It's pretty huge and you can talk to a lot npc. For some reason the music there sounds like in witcher 3s novigrad

Followers have unique quests that can unlock stuff for them like in new vegas

The amount of customization to your gear you can do is absolutely insane, especially with the layered armor system.

The perk and 'skill' system still is absolute shit though

Anyway just reporting in, take of that what you will

If you want to see some screenshots etc just tell what you want to see

 

[UndetectedButthurt]

FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT

 

[RhodokMasterRaceOfficial]

If you want to see some screenshots etc just tell what you want to see

How much medium armour is there? I mean stuff like the ranger suits from New Vegas.

 

[Adon]

"Cheating by dodging their rules"? Wtf this isn't school or some shit like that.

 

[Surf Solar]

How much medium armour is there? I mean stuff like the ranger suits from New Vegas.

It basically works like this, there are many simple outfits, every day casual wear like shirts, jeans, coats, dusters and so on. Above this you put any armor item you want for left/right shoulder, body holster, head, left/right leg and so on. All of them have their own slots. In these slots you place whatever you want, every faction ingame has quite a lot different items for all these slots which you can further customize on workbenches to a ridicolous degree.

For example here I am wearing a basic army uniform as clothing, left shoulder is a customized armor pad giving me +25 poison resist, vest pouches was a unique item I picked up giving +1 PE and so on. Sorry for bad screenshot quality.

http://abload.de/img/144704599063616473272z5zg6.jpg

 

[Space Satan]

Gotta say, the combat is allright. All enemies have a different gimmick to them, Molerats swarm you in packs, two attack from front, other will dig into ground to reappear behind you, ghouls are very fast, deal radiation damage and dont dodge attacks while not caring for missing limbs. Mutants have suicide bombers that are faster than others chasing you with a ticking bomb allahu ackbaring you. Their dogs seem to have high perception making sneaking more harder. Depending on rank, human enemies will flank and take cover (melee humans are still retarded though). If you sit in cover they throw grenades. Radscorpions absolutely tear you apart.

Any skillchecks? Attributes or skills have any effect on dialogues?

 

[Surf Solar]

Any skillchecks? Attributes or skills have any effect on dialogues?

Nope nope and nope. There are no skills in this game, only perks you unlock on each level. Absolute trash.

There are perks that make certain checks in dialogues easier, but I believe they can be savescummed as they are random just like in FO3

Followers usually also like you less if you constantly try to weasel out more money from npc that give you quests

 

[Stainless Veteran]

"Cheating by dodging their rules"? Wtf this isn't school or some shit like that.

No, mate, that's where you're wrong. This is precisely high school.

 

[Metro]

Is there actually any need to customize your armor? Is poison resist useful at all? The idea is good in theory but I can't imagine combat being so challenging that it would matter.

 

[Space Satan]

Nope nope and nope. There are no skills in this game, only perks you unlock on each level. Absolute trash.

There are perks that make certain checks in dialogues easier, but I believe they can be savescummed as they are random just like in FO3

Followers usually also like you less if you constantly try to weasel out more money from npc that give you quests

Well, I don't know what I expected from asking this. How's traps in local dugeons, skyrim-like? Also, does enemies scale to your level?

 

[Surf Solar]

Is there actually any need to customize your armor? Is poison resist useful at all? The idea is good in theory but I can't imagine combat being so challenging that it would matter.

If you dont and just equip standard stuff you will get brutally raped by the enemies unless you play on easy

Space Satan , I have not noticed any enemy scaling so far. If you wander off too far, enemies will easily kill you. I am level 15 now and nothing has changed with enemy spawns. Yeah there are many traps, some hidden pretty well. It is standard dungeon romping, but this time the combat is ok so its tolerable.

 

[Space Satan]

Space Satan , I have not noticed any enemy scaling so far. If you wander off too far, enemies will easily kill you. I am level 15 now and nothing has changed with enemy spawns. Yeah there are many traps, some hidden pretty well. It is standard dungeon romping, but this time the combat is ok so its tolerable.

Ok, on scale of 1 to Fallout 3, how dumb you companions are?

 

[dragonul09]

If you dont and just equip standard stuff you will get brutally raped by the enemies unless you play on easy

Space Satan , I have not noticed any enemy scaling so far. If you wander off too far, enemies will easily kill you. I am level 15 now and nothing has changed with enemy spawns. Yeah there are many traps, some hidden pretty well. It is standard dungeon romping, but this time the combat is ok so its tolerable.

How is the dialogue in general? Is it as bad as we saw in dem videos?
Are there many branches in the dialogue tree? Like ''investigation'' in Mass effect?

 

[Surf Solar]

Havent played enough to really see all of them or talk too much. There is liberal newspaper girl who wants to fight the man and authority, noble englishman personality robot and so on. I kinda like the 'detective' follower that heavily plays on the Bladerunner cliche but is a synth, he's funny. Don't expect any meaningful writing

dragonul09 it is like Mass Effect, you can investigate pretty often but the animations and voice acting are cringeworthy

 

[dragonul09]

Havent played enough to really see all of them or talk too much. There is liberal newspaper girl who wants to fight the man and authority, noble englishman personality robot and so on. I kinda like the 'detective' follower that heavily plays on the Bladerunner cliche but is a synth, he's funny. Don't expect any meaningful writing

dragonul09 it is like Mass Effect, you can investigate pretty often but the animations and voice acting are cringeworthy

Bad animation and VA in a Beth game?

 

[Tommy Wiseau]

AHAHAHAHAHA THE SUBTITLES HAVE GRAMMAR ERRORS

Probably not as many as in the original Fallout though.

 

[Jaesun]

They have completely removed Skill checks Surf Solar from what you have seen so far?