Fallout 4 Pre-Release Discussion [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Killzig]

I haven't understood one thing. Is there level scaling in this game?

There are legendary mole rats with additional radiation damage. So yeah, there's level scaling.

 

[Bahamut]

Standard response to any criticism of the game is 'mods will fix it', as if we didn't have to wait years for mods to make Skyrim barely playable, or new Vegas or Fallout 3.

Im tired of modding the shit out of bethesda games, because its usualy ends spending hours downloading mods, tinkering not to get CTD's, playing hour or two and uninstalling

really fuck the mods if they are only thing that makes the game bearable

 

[upwardlymobile]

I haven't understood one thing. Is there level scaling in this game?

they said there's limited scaling within a range ("rubberbanding") so a beginner area might have a scale from 1-8 then stop getting harder, while a hard area might stay the same difficulty up to 40 then get harder until 60. it sounds like an improvement but who knows they may just be lying about it anyway. they lie about the weirdest things sometimes.

 

[Zeriel]

they said there's limited scaling within a range ("rubberbanding") so a beginner area might have a scale from 1-8 then stop getting harder, while a hard area might stay the same difficulty up to 40 then get harder until 60. it sounds like an improvement but who knows they may just be lying about it anyway. they lie about the weirdest things sometimes.

I thought Skyrim did the same thing.

 

[Jedi Master Radek]

review

Now I understand why LARPers are deemed subhumans....

 

[moon knight]

they said there's limited scaling within a range ("rubberbanding") so a beginner area might have a scale from 1-8 then stop getting harder, while a hard area might stay the same difficulty up to 40 then get harder until 60. it sounds like an improvement but who knows they may just be lying about it anyway. they lie about the weirdest things sometimes.

Ok, so this seems to be legit

 

[RhodokMasterRaceOfficial]

It's so linear though in a way that's not even clever. I'm guessing the bottom right is where your vault is.

 

[AW8]

On a related note, here's a picture of Todd Howard.

 

[Zeriel]

"It's incredibly."

That says it all, doesn't it.

 

[upwardlymobile]

I thought Skyrim did the same thing.

don't think so; someone once did an LP where they did the whole main quest at level 1

 

[moon knight]

It's so linear though in a way that's not even clever. I'm guessing the bottom right is where your vault is.

Yeah, the blu area is the lowest in terms of mobs level.
But...shouldn't it be...linear?
I mean, it would be worst if you find 35 level mobs right outside the vault. Or am I missing something?

 

[Raghar]

And another stream bited the dust.
AW8 you can't expect moonlight knight can use rotate function twice into the same direction. You must rotate your monitor.

Also that area above (when rotated) the difficulty line is map with location of all important objects. It's jerkistic they cut the image this way.

 

[Black]

You know what would be awesome? If Fallout 4 got mentioned in the next Big Bang Theory episode.

They name dropped TOR so anything's possible. I'd be more surprised if they didn't.

 

[RhodokMasterRaceOfficial]

I mean, it would be worst if you find 35 level mobs right outside the vault. Or am I missing something?

Well I think New Vegas was pretty clever in the way they put the high level mobs right next to the starting zone and then told you you were going to die if you didn't walk around them. Of course, getting through everything and sprinting straight towards Vegas isn't very hard, but the thought is what mostly counts.

I guess they listened to the feedback from their primary user-base that this was an "invisible wall" or something and decided not to try anything like that with their game.

 

[Genma:TheDestroyer]

It's so linear though in a way that's not even clever. I'm guessing the bottom right is where your vault is.

To be fair New Vegas tried to funnel you past Primm, Nipton and NoVac the same way. Oh, you want to go straight to New Vegas and catch that rat bastard Benny? You turned left after Goodsprings? Surprise, we've brought Deathclaws and Super Mutants for everyone!



Made a heavy stealth character once just to give a hearty fuck you to that gimmick. Snuck where I could, cheesed barriers and climbed ledges when I couldn't. Had to reload saves about a dozen times but I finally managed to get through. Now that's a good feeling.



Edit: And you've already ackowledged that. Fuck I'm getting preempted everywhere lately.

 

[moon knight]

AW8 you can't expect moonlight knight can use rotate function twice into the same direction. You must rotate your monitor.

I didn't upload the image.

 

[Stainless Veteran]

So I've made this, feel free to use in discussions with Bethtards as you see fit.

 

[Black]

It's funny because you couldn't spoil other RPGs, say, AoD, the same way. Because there's not one conclusion that everyone arrives at.
AoD > FO4.

 

[Zeriel]

I can't get past those textures. They are legendarily bad. It's like they made a current gen game that looks like it was downscaled for the PS3.

 

[Excidium II]

It's funny because you couldn't spoil other RPGs, say, AoD, the same way. Because there's not one conclusion that everyone arrives at.
AoD > FO4.

Didn't stop faggots from spoiling all the ancient gods shit. I thought it had just some archeotech.

 

[Zeriel]

Didn't stop faggots from spoiling all the ancient gods shit. I thought it had just some ancient archeotech.

Sounds like you got triggered.

 

[Gathering]

Fallout 4 apparently has 111,000 lines of dialogue, 85,000 of which are npc's and 26,0000 are the player characters, 13k for each gender. F:NV had 65,000 lines of npc dialogue. How does fallout 4's shitty dialogue system actually have more lines for the npc's than New Vegas's good dialogue system?

 

[Roguey]

I'm surprised Bethesda didn't introduce an achievement based perk reward system.

Josh did it first http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_perks#Challenge_and_special_perks

 

[Raghar]

I didn't upload the image.

Uhhmmm, some sense of humor? I didn't expect AW8 to rotate his monitor 180 degree either.

(Thought, I'm one of these retards who re-upload images to prevent theirs deletion by original uploader, and I occasionally correct them when I'm in mood. It's probably not worthy in this case, because it's not whole book page. Was that from manual, or some guide book?)

 

[Raghar]

Josh did it first http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_perks#Challenge_and_special_perks

Was Alpha protocol before New Vegas, or after?