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Do you have SecuRom installed on your computer?

Do you have SecuRom installed?

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Sirus

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I installed Fate the other day without knowing it came with it.
 

Disconnected

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DraQ said:
BTW: Can anyone recommend some good DRM-watch site, or, alternatively, can we get a DRM-watch subforum on teh Codexia?
Is that necessary? I don't think I've ever come across an anti-user protected game that didn't state as much on the box/download service.

If you're like us and store isos of everything on an external disk, then what you really need is instructions on how to circumvent anti-user protection. The DT forum is a good place to look for that sort of thing.

The better alternative though, is to use online publishers like GOG and Impulse. The former gives you an unprotected installer, so simply save that to wherever you keep your games. The latter has build-in backup functionality. It's slower, but works just as well. The only problem with Impulse & GOG is the limited catalogues. But then, I think it's perfectly reasonable to boycott anything not available through those publishers, on the grounds that whomever owns the missing shit are obviously cunts on a mission to rip you off.
 

DraQ

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Quite a few games come with ninja DRM and I don't want to have to remove some shitty malware from my rig after buying some rare modern game that looked good enough for me to actually remove it from an inventory.
I want to know beforehand, if a game is actually not worth of being removed from an inventory not merely because of actual content, but because the publisher tries to pull off some abusive shit.
 

Disconnected

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DraQ said:
Quite a few games come with ninja DRM and I don't want to have to remove some shitty malware from my rig after buying some rare modern game that looked good enough for me to actually remove it from an inventory.
I want to know beforehand, if a game is actually not worth of being removed from an inventory not merely because of actual content, but because the publisher tries to pull off some abusive shit.
There's two truisms you need to understand here. First off, Hanlon's Razor says: "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."
Secondly, Disconnected's addendum says: "Never attribute to stupidity that which can be adequately explained by greed."

From this you can readily draw the conclusion that if the type of copy protection employed isn't stated on the box/download page, it is not because there is no copy protection, but rather because someone wants to trick you.

In those cases, a Google search for the game title plus "copy protection" should inform you of the exact type of protection used. But the more appropriate action would be to avoid the game altogether.

Because lack of copy protection obviously increases the value of the product, and you can therefore safely assume that the box would proclaim the fact in the biggest, fattest letters that can be fitted on the thing.

Point is, you don't actually need a forum to inform/warn you. You may need one to get around whatever the publisher calls copy protection, but in that case, the DT forum is far better than anything the Codex can hope to offer.
 
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aries202 said:
Yes, I think so. I have NWN2 installed.... and probably some other games as well...

Probably the same here. It hasn't been of significant level of assrapitude until recent versions, yeah?
 

Heresiarch

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Where's the "I don't know" option?

Anyway to check if my PC is infested with it?
 

Naked Ninja

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When the Bioshock securom hoo-haw came up I refused to buy it because I was worried, after all, the internets said it was SO bad!

Then I realized I'd had games which utilized Securom installed on my machine for ages and never even noticed, never had a problem. And then I smacked myself in the forehead for listening to the hysteria of the unwashed masses.
 

Dmitron

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People needed a "new" Starforce..I also thought it was odd latching onto Securom since it's been around for years.

I guess it's the implementation such as the limited installs that, understandably, caused a backlash.

Games for Windows Live and requiring an internet connection are much more "evil" than most DRM though.
 

Kraszu

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Looks like I have I check whit regedit, but I did not notice any problems. I don't like to swap CDs, or having to turn off deamon that some legal games require. I have old PC so I don't have experience whit those new fancy DRM.
 

Worm King

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Never had a problem with these protections. Frankly, I laugh at people who are afraid to install a game because of them.
 

WhiskeyWolf

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DraQ said:
Run regedit and search for securom.
Oh shit, it's here - it installed itself with Farcry 2.

Ok, now what, do I only need to delete it throught regedit?
 

JarlFrank

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Ran regedit, didn't find it, am kinda happy now even though I wouldn't have cared if I found it either. What's so bad about it, anyways? You can get worse malware by browsing the net and downloading things.
 

WhiskeyWolf

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No shit, I got a task to clean a Laptop from one nice lady. I used Webroot on it and it found a dangerous 5/5 Malware - when I tried to get rid of it, it counter-attacked. A battle started, when the dust settled the Windows in tatters - I couldn't enter it. Hello fresh XP, oh God and I have to download the drivers... and those on the ASUS site don't match, I hate this shit.
 

Ryuken

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Naked Ninja said:
Then I realized I'd had games which utilized Securom installed on my machine for ages and never even noticed, never had a problem. And then I smacked myself in the forehead for listening to the hysteria of the unwashed masses.
This, I also don't have problems installing games that use SecuROM even when I have a virtual drive installed.

Starforce or TAGES are another matter though, they make older games outright incompatible with Vista 64 bit... :(
 

BethesdaLove

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Of course, its a nicely working driver. Almost no bugs.
 

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