Divine Divinity 2

[Saxon1974]

Well, here are a couple of screenies from this game.

I thought the first Divine Divinity was pretty good for a hack and slash diabloish type of game. It had some decent story and quests to it. The sequel beyond divinity was pretty bad though.

Here is everyone's favorite key words, this is their "next gen" project and look at the shiny 3D graphics!

The fact they went 3D when I think the 2D graphics they had before were rather good, probably means this game will suck, but I hope im wrong.

http://www.freewebs.com/divinedivinity2/

 

[Norfleet]

...Freewebs? This is probably a joke site, you know.

 

[Mimir]

No, those are actual screenshots from the untitled sequel to Divinie Divinity. I remember them from when they were first shown two or three years ago. Larian seems to be hiring new people for a new RPG, so it's probably still in development, but they haven't released much information about it since those shots.

Edit: Found a short video with some gameplay here.

 

[Saxon1974]

No, those are actual screenshots from the untitled sequel to Divinie Divinity. I remember them from when they were first shown two or three years ago. Larian seems to be hiring new people for a new RPG, so it's probably still in development, but they haven't released much information about it since those shots.

Edit: Found a short video with some gameplay here.

Watched that, from that it appears its another FPS style action RPG. Joy.

 

[MetalCraze]

those screenshots look like shit
not only the design is horribly generic but acidic colors mixed with bloom look terrible

and btw wtf is wrong with his left hand on the first screenshot?

 

[fabrulana]

Really enjoyed the first game, couldn't place my finger on it what precisely made it good but it was one of the RPG's I actually finished.

Decided to buy Beyond Divinity follow up, it used the same engine - but it was terrible. I really hope this one brings it back to the original storyline/game play. I don't care much for the graphics though.

 

[Section8]

Watched that, from that it appears its another FPS style action RPG. Joy.

You never know, it could turn out to be what Gothic 3 should have been, and that would float the boats of many people around here. Not that I have high hopes for anything like that.

 

[Binary]

Another Oblivion-wannabe...

NEXT!

 

[Gragt]

Yeah, I'm afraid they are jumping on the Oblivion bandwagon but they still have a long way to go, the plan is to release the game in 2009. I just hope they took the critics of the Beyond Divinity (which was more of a spin-off than a sequel) and also those of the first game seriously.

For those of you speaking not understanding Dutch, the video is not really about Divinity 2 but about the Flemish government encouraging people to invest in video games. So of course they went to Larian which is the only big developper we have in Belgium (we also had Appeal before but they closed a few years ago before completing Outcast 2). That's why you have interviews with people who have nothing to do with Larian.

The team did not really expect the tv to be coming and were even surprised to have the images broadcasted the same evening.

Larian stated they wanted to have a nice and shiny graphic engine but also make a game that would keep the qualities of the first one. We'll just have to see and while I admit I'm a bit afraid of the end result I still remember they did the first Divinity.

And I still remember they did the spin-off... Never went pas Act I. Perhaps I can try it again after this Arcanum session.

 

[Uz0rnaem]

Just curious, what was so bad about Beyond Divinity compared to the first?

I've never played either, since they've always been described to me as "Baldur's Gate with Diablo combat", which doesn't sound very appealing.

 

[Gragt]

Mind that I did not play the whole game but only part of the first act and it was a few years ago, when it came out in 2004. I want to replay it soonish so I can see if I can get myself to finish it and maybe like it better than I did the first time.

What did it for me was that maybe I was expecting too much of the first game with it's big world to explore. I got the two games together and I really liked Divinity despite its flaws.

Then I tried Beyond, and while I liked the premise of playing a good guy being tied to a bad guy, I must say the big dungeon corridor crawling from the start was a bit too much for me. I also tried the battlegrounds that were a bit diabloish but it was again killing tons of monsters with no story (no surprise there, that's why they created them and you can skip them).

It was a lot of dungeon crawl and no story at all while it started interesting. The new mechanic of having party members was interesting too but in a way it slowed combat a bit while the first game was very Diablo hack and slash in that respect.

Still I guess I need to try it again just to be sure. Maybe it gets a bit better later.

 

[Lesifoere]

Just curious, what was so bad about Beyond Divinity compared to the first?

I've never played either, since they've always been described to me as "Baldur's Gate with Diablo combat", which doesn't sound very appealing.

The first DD is charming. It's not all that original, and the world is fairly generic, but it does have a touch of humor, fairly compelling gameplay, and an interesting world to explore. Then Larian tried to be edgy with Beyond Divinity--a "darker" setting, a more "original" story, the whole nine yards. But it failed. The atmosphere is just not there, there are long dungeon crawls after another, the battlefield mechanic fucking sucked, the game was buggy at release--probably still is--and neither the writing nor the combat was anything to write home about. Actually, the combat was an almighty trainwreck that crashed over every single redeeming virtue the game might have. Normally I have no problem with RTwP, but BD's RTwP is some of the worst example of it. Add shitty voiceacting on top of this, and--well, Lionheart was a better game.

 

[dragonfk]

Just curious, what was so bad about Beyond Divinity compared to the first?

I've never played either, since they've always been described to me as "Baldur's Gate with Diablo combat", which doesn't sound very appealing.

Most CRAPPY voiceacting I have EVER heard in a game. EVER!

Enough to say that I could have not played the game because of the voiceacting and I am not one of those who need perfection to be pleased.

 

[nik2008ofs]

The first DD is charming. It's not all that original, and the world is fairly generic, but it does have a touch of humor, fairly compelling gameplay, and an interesting world to explore

Never forget the amazing music by Kirill Pokrovsky when counting DD merits, among the best ever written for any game... the one I remember most vividly is the one that played in the tavern, I simply can't imagine a piece of music better capturing the ambience of a busy medieval inn...

 

[doctor_kaz]

The biggest problem with Beyond Divinity was that it was boring, and it was more linear. There was never the feeling like you were exploring a gigantic living world like there was in DD. The last chapter of BD was really good though.

 

[Saxon1974]

I really wish they would have stayed with the 2D graphics, I thought they were pretty good. I know there are no studio's will to invest in 2D games anymore though. I seriously doubt this game will be any good.

I think every studio from here on for the next few years are going to push out Oblivion clones. Thank god for my collection of old games!

 

[Gragt]

The first DD is charming. It's not all that original, and the world is fairly generic, but it does have a touch of humor, fairly compelling gameplay, and an interesting world to explore. Then Larian tried to be edgy with Beyond Divinity--a "darker" setting, a more "original" story, the whole nine yards. But it failed. The atmosphere is just not there, there are long dungeon crawls after another, the battlefield mechanic fucking sucked, the game was buggy at release--probably still is--and neither the writing nor the combat was anything to write home about. Actually, the combat was an almighty trainwreck that crashed over every single redeeming virtue the game might have. Normally I have no problem with RTwP, but BD's RTwP is some of the worst example of it. Add shitty voiceacting on top of this, and--well, Lionheart was a better game.

Hm, am I so sure now I want to reinstall it after I finish Arcanum?

Guess so, let's live dangerously.

Oh and while not in the game itself, I remember it used StarForce as copy-protection... Disabled in the last patch but it's still there.

 

[Xi]

Just curious, what was so bad about Beyond Divinity compared to the first?

I've never played either, since they've always been described to me as "Baldur's Gate with Diablo combat", which doesn't sound very appealing.

Most CRAPPY voiceacting I have EVER heard in a game. EVER!

Enough to say that I could have not played the game because of the voiceacting and I am not one of those who need perfection to be pleased.

You spoiled faggot, you couldn't play the game because you have been modernized by games like Oblivion. Seriously though, I have played and beaten DD and its voice acting was just fine. It grows on you after a while and becomes another charm the game offers.


As for BD, I own it but haven't set aside the time to go through it. I like the mechanic of the game and some of the new ideas, I just don't like being chain to a fucking Death Knight the whole game. That just kills some aspect of it for me. I will endure it some day and beat it. From what I have read BD is a fantastic game if you can get into it as it offers deeper mechanics than the first. Plus, it has better Voice acting and music, go figure!

 

[nik2008ofs]

Most CRAPPY voiceacting I have EVER heard in a game. EVER!

Have you played Revenant?

 

[Xi]

Here is some supposed video of the gameplay.

http://www.deredactie.be/cm/de.redactie ... k/1.248366

Found in the DD2 Forum on the Larian Site. It looks very Oblivion/Fable like. Hopefully they can actually manage to keep the RPG mechanics functional.

 

[JarlFrank]

Most CRAPPY voiceacting I have EVER heard in a game. EVER!

So you didn't play the Oblivion expansion Shivering Isles? That's a good example of voiceacting gone horribly *horribly* wrong.

 

[Fez]

I have Beyond Divinity and it is crappy. Not worth playing. Save yourself the trouble and avoid it if there are any other games that you have on the "to play" list.

Better voice acting? The voice acting in the BD demo was so bad and had so many complaints that they quickly redid all of it to save embarrassment. It was still terrible on release. That didn't stop me from playing it but even with great voice acting it would still be a shit game. What a waste of money.

 

[Red Russian]

You spoiled faggot, you couldn't play the game because you have been modernized by games like Oblivion. Seriously though, I have played and beaten DD and its voice acting was just fine. It grows on you after a while and becomes another charm the game offers.

Go fuck yourself. That elf was fucking horrendous and unbearable. He sounds like some fat guy's bitch where they play hop-scotch on an elven dildo every night. Every time I hear the fucking fag speak it's like his voice is trying to say that he can't wait to get home to his "man" for some fuck-lovin'-dildo action with an aftermath in bed that goes like "Come, I'll make you some more of that hot tear". Elven men fucking each other with dildo's and making "hot" tea.

What a faggy game.

 

[Xi]

You spoiled faggot, you couldn't play the game because you have been modernized by games like Oblivion. Seriously though, I have played and beaten DD and its voice acting was just fine. It grows on you after a while and becomes another charm the game offers.

Go fuck yourself. That elf was fucking horrendous and unbearable. He sounds like some fat guy's bitch where they play hop-scotch on an elven dildo every night. Every time I hear the fucking fag speak it's like his voice is trying to say that he can't wait to get home to his "man" for some fuck-lovin'-dildo action with an aftermath in bed that goes like "Come, I'll make you some more of that hot tear". Elven men fucking each other with dildo's and making "hot" tea.

What a faggy game.

Go play Oblivion then, and enjoy your self masturbation. The VOs were fine. There were more important things to complain about, and here we are talking about Voice Overs. I'm sure the next step is graphics, etc. You just sound like some silly console faggot who only plays games for the immersion. If it is a good Role-Play experience, then the other factors should be an after thought, but they aren't. Obviously BD is a different story, but I've played the game and didn't find it as bad as I've seen mentioned in different places. I will play it all the way through eventually too. VOs weren't as big of an issue as some of you pretend. And you wonder why developers spend so much time on this type of shit? Fucking A. Theres the genre decline in a nutshell, right there.

 

[Red Russian]

The voice acting in DD sucks. End of discussion. The rest of the game was enjoyable. In no way was the purchase of DD influenced negatively by the crappy VOs.

VOs weren't as big of an issue as some of you pretend.

If something is bad, it's bad. If 10% of a game sucks compared to the other 90%, then for fucks sake, let me say that 10% sucks. VOs for me doesn't make or break a game. Music does that a lot more then VOs. And from a visual perspective, I'm more interested in graphical-style then polygons.

Your obviously so overwhelmed by the game's charm in other areas, that your blinded to the plain cold hard facts about the VOs. They suck.