Incline Disco Elysium - The Final Cut - a hardboiled cop show isometric RPG

[ScrotumBroth]

Sigh... Nick, when was the last time you were touched by a woman? Seriously dude... let off some steam.

 

[Haba]

Uh... Can you get the shoes after the corpse is down from the tree? I get no options after autopsy

You can. Did you try to take them off during the autopsy? I think that's what I did, and a skill helped me out. As long as Kim hasn't taken the body away you should be able to try again.

You can't. Oh sweet Jesus.

You HAVE to get the task for it, and apparently Kim talked me out of it when doing the initial inspection on the corpse.

 

[Prime Junta]

Nigga, you spent 2 years before this game even came out arguing it's going to be a masterpiece that will teleport us to another galaxy, but I've biased myself because I was shitposting pre-release thread for a week?

Thing is, I was right. The game was a massive critical success and I've seen very few games that have been as positively received here either. In fact it's been way better received here than I expected -- I was pretty sure the storyfag contingent would love it, but there are a lot of grogs onboard as well, as well as some I would never, ever have expected to like it -- luj1 to name one.

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And I haven't even gloated about it much.

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Neener neener.

 

[Deleted Member 16721]

Some people like Latro (latroll) can't stand that we were right Junta, and called this game getting rave reviews from the start. Not my fault i enjoy the game, and games in general (RPGEES, mostly.) Deal with it, suckas! Where is your Codex edgy hate on every game false deity now?!?

JK bros. If you don't like it and it's not for you, then them's the breaks. But to those who haven't played it and are shitting on it, I highly recommend playing it and actually forming a real opinion based on what you've played. It could pleasantly surprise you.

 

[Egosphere]

Having low intelligence translates into having occasional brain-farts, not crippling inability to navigate the surrounding world.

The same is true of any of the stats. Putting a 1 into them puts you towards the lower end of the scale of being a non-crippled somewhat functional human being. Like, Physique 1 doesn't put you in a wheelchair, it just gives you limp wrists and a dicky ticker.

What it does do is make you miss out on a lot of stuff related to that attribute. With 1 Intellect you won't get trivia from Encyclopedia, Drama won't inform you when a suspect is lying (or give you smooth lies to tell), Conceptualisation won't let you solve the philosophical, artistic, and existential mysteries of the world, Rhetoric won't push you to being a political firebrand, and so on. 1 Intellect won't make you a retard, it'll just make you a bit ... dull, intellectually speaking.

Sure, but it feels inconsistent to have a very sharp mind 80% of the time, yet not pick up on Martin Martinaise. There's an overlap between intelligence and motorics in this game, with the latter easily overriding the former when it comes to solving problems. From the outside, you'd be forgiven for thinking I was doing an Int 3 - 4 playthrough. The culprit is the groupings of the skills, which seem quite arbitrary. Interfacing and reaction and perception would be skills you'd associate with a sharp mind, not a dull one.

 

[Prime Junta]

(Sorry about getting a bit carried away there. Truth is though that your continuous needling IHaveHugeNick is tiresome, and I wish you'd stop. Whatever else you might think at this point you could have the good grace to admit that it's not just me by my little self shilling for an oddball East European commie game. It would be cool if you accepted at least that much.)

 

[PorkyThePaladin]

I know it's early and everthing, but I have to say, I feel like Disco Disco is broaching PST territory. They are very different games of course, but both just blow your mind in terms of what's possible.

The combination of interesting dialogue and characters, and the mystery of the case and your past, but also how wit and good writing come together with humor while at the same time exploring some tremendously sad and touching themes, it's just on a different level from the vast majority of games.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

So to summarize the last 2 pages, these are the only debating points shill squad could come up with against my first impressions:

- keep playing it gets good eventually
- dude it must be good because critics like it
- lol you're so biased
- lol get laid nerd


It's seems like you can't actually come up with any flaw in my description of the game, so you're just sperging as a self-defense mechanism.

Welcome to RPG Codex fellas. Sometimes that thing that you like is actually shit.

 

[Infinitron]

 

[deama]

I'm confused on how to use cigarretes, I bought a pack from a store, but how do I use it? I equiped them and there's an icon at the lower right corner, but when I click it nothing happens?

 

[Prime Junta]

you're just sperging as a self-defense mechanism

Projecting much there bruh?

 

[Luckmann]

I'm not going to lie, I'm kind of dying here. As time has gone on, I've become less and less accepting of voluminous writing in games, but this.. this is a joy.

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FUCK THAT BIRD

Edit: I must say, though, that people that imply things like "keep playing it gets good eventually" or something like that are probably full of shit. I can't see that. Sure, I'm not far into the game at all, but I can't imagine that if you don't like the game after an hour or two, you're going to like it after six or twelve.

Aside from some cringy gommie-writing that stood out once or twice so far, it's p. good. I'd call it more of an adventure game than a CRPG, though, personally. But p. good.

 

[Riddler]

Regarding the politics in the game... I don't have any problem whatsoever with the game making fun of racists and romanticising communists but it honestly kind of sucks that when you are presented with a racist rant your only two responses are responding like an Antifa member or a straight up racist, and chastised if you refuse to pick a side. If I'm playing a 6 intelligence guy why couldn't I be allowed to pick apart the retarded guys argument rather than shout at him like a baboon?

The main character usually seems esoterically thoughtful but when presented with something like racism he suddenly changes personality?

A small blemish on an otherwise excellent game.

 

[Prime Junta]

You clearly need to work on your centrism.

 

[bataille]

I know it's early and everthing, but I have to say, I feel like Disco Disco is broaching PST territory. They are very different games of course, but both just blow your mind in terms of what's possible.

The combination of interesting dialogue and characters, and the mystery of the case and your past, but also how wit and good writing come together with humor while at the same time exploring some tremendously sad and touching themes, it's just on a different level from the vast majority of games.

Honestly, the dialogue during the last confrontation is much stronger than the end of PST. I hope people have high

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Inland Empire

when they get there. Also, I feel that the third act is the strongest due to how focused (and linear, yeah) it is. I'd like to see a more tightly structured work from the writer since it's obviously his forte. Maybe I should look up that book of his...

 

[Riddler]

You clearly need to work on your centrism.

Can you internalise centrism?

 

[PorkyThePaladin]

As time has gone on, I've become less and less accepting of voluminous writing in games, but this.. this is a joy.

This is what people don't realize. It's NOT the voluminous writing that's bugging us, it's the SHITTY voluminous writing. I couldn't stand the pretentious walls of text in Pillars of Eternity, but absolutely loving the far larger walls of text in Disco Disco.

Same thing happened to me with cutscenes and dialogue. A few years back, I played through Dragon Age: Origins, and the cutscenes in it were killing me. I was falling asleep at every single one. At some point, a thought crossed my mind, am I getting too old for games?

Some months later, I played Witcher 3, and absolutely loved the cutscenes there.

 

[Luckmann]

As time has gone on, I've become less and less accepting of voluminous writing in games, but this.. this is a joy.

This is what people don't realize. It's NOT the voluminous writing that's bugging us, it's the SHITTY voluminous writing. I couldn't stand the pretentious walls of text in Pillars of Eternity, but absolutely loving the far larger walls of text in Disco Disco.

Same thing happened to me with cutscenes and dialogue. A few years back, I played through Dragon Age: Origins, and the cutscenes in it were killing me. I was falling asleep at every single one. At some point, a thought crossed my mind, am I getting too old for games?

Some months later, I played Witcher 3, and absolutely loved the cutscenes there.

I agree, I absolutely do, but in this case it's not just that. I've actually become less accepting, too. I'm one of the people that'll always never not put PS:T on a pillar, and I loved the entirety of Baldur's Gate, but I've got a much harder time when replaying them today. I've actually become more ADD as I've gotten older, if anything. But I just realized that I've been playing Disco Elysium for a few hours (still just in the initial area, though) and I haven't "zoned out" or dozed off even once, and I find myself actually pushing off getting more tea.

Everyone who knows me knows that I'll always find something to complain about and will actively try to find things that can be improved, but the overall writing in Disco Elysium so far is top notch, and I constantly find myself laughing and snickering at this absolute disaster of a human being, yet the game has already made me feel genuinely bad at least once.

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No, it wasn't punching the kid - he had it coming - but rather the Esprit De Corps that can happen after talking to your regular colleagues on the phone, and how they lament how fucked up you are. Really made me question my decision to play this character as taking all the drugs and the booze and the cigarettes.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

(Sorry about getting a bit carried away there. Truth is though that your continuous needling IHaveHugeNick is tiresome, and I wish you'd stop. Whatever else you might think at this point you could have the good grace to admit that it's not just me by my little self shilling for an oddball East European commie game. It would be cool if you accepted at least that much.)

What on earth, bro. I gave the game an honest shot and wrote a positive-neutral review that praised much more things than it criticized. If that's something that pushes you on the brink of emotional meltdown, you should probably step aside and remember that it's just a game.

And worry not, it's not my style to stick around and shit on games I no longer play just to mess with people who are having fun.

 

[The Last Blackguard]

Regarding the politics in the game... I don't have any problem whatsoever with the game making fun of racists and romanticising communists but it honestly kind of sucks that when you are presented with a racist rant your only two responses are responding like an Antifa member or a straight up racist, and chastised if you refuse to pick a side. If I'm playing a 6 intelligence guy why couldn't I be allowed to pick apart the retarded guys argument rather than shout at him like a baboon?

The main character usually seems esoterically thoughtful but when presented with something like racism he suddenly changes personality?

A small blemish on an otherwise excellent game.

Is this the dialogue with Measurehead, or the racist lorry driver?

 

[rusty_shackleford]

(Sorry about getting a bit carried away there. Truth is though that your continuous needling IHaveHugeNick is tiresome, and I wish you'd stop. Whatever else you might think at this point you could have the good grace to admit that it's not just me by my little self shilling for an oddball East European commie game. It would be cool if you accepted at least that much.)

What on earth, bro. I gave the game an honest shot and wrote an positive-neutral review that praised much more things than it criticized. If that's something that pushes you on the brink of emotional meltdown, you should probably step aside and remember that it's just a game.

And worry not, it's not my style to stick around and shit on games I no longer play just to mess with people who are having fun.

anything short of "best game ever created wow I love communism now!" is going to get a negative response in the echo chamber

 

[Riddler]

Regarding the politics in the game... I don't have any problem whatsoever with the game making fun of racists and romanticising communists but it honestly kind of sucks that when you are presented with a racist rant your only two responses are responding like an Antifa member or a straight up racist, and chastised if you refuse to pick a side. If I'm playing a 6 intelligence guy why couldn't I be allowed to pick apart the retarded guys argument rather than shout at him like a baboon?

The main character usually seems esoterically thoughtful but when presented with something like racism he suddenly changes personality?

A small blemish on an otherwise excellent game.

Is this the dialogue with Measurehead, or the racist lorry driver?

I was thinking of the lorry driver. Measurehead is just word-salad but it would have been fun breaking that down as well(which you can do a little bit).

 

[Vincente]

My 1 INT cop somehow understands Latin, French and the voice in my head speaks like an academic.

tfw my own INT is lower than 1

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

(Sorry about getting a bit carried away there. Truth is though that your continuous needling IHaveHugeNick is tiresome, and I wish you'd stop. Whatever else you might think at this point you could have the good grace to admit that it's not just me by my little self shilling for an oddball East European commie game. It would be cool if you accepted at least that much.)

What on earth, bro. I gave the game an honest shot and wrote an positive-neutral review that praised much more things than it criticized. If that's something that pushes you on the brink of emotional meltdown, you should probably step aside and remember that it's just a game.

And worry not, it's not my style to stick around and shit on games I no longer play just to mess with people who are having fun.

anything short of "best game ever created wow I love communism now!" is going to get a negative response in the echo chamber

Seriously, it's like mass psychosis around here. I've gave good rating to just about everything about DE except the mechanics and even that is enough for all of them to crawl into fetal position and make emotional appeals to stop hurting them.

 

[Prime Junta]

And worry not, it's not my style to stick around and shit on games I no longer play just to mess with people who are having fun.

Cool. I'll believe that when I see it.