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Complete List of Western (Non-Anime) Blobbers - both RT and TB

What type of blobbers do you prefer?


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Psionics was a single-character blobber.

If it is single character, it is not a blobber. Someone should compile a list of all 1st Person Single-Character RPG's, since there are indeed quite a few, including good ones (Ultima Underworld, etc.).

Don't Go Alone had a party, but I can't remember its combat.

Seems to be turn-based, included it in the list.

Just looked at Arakion's steam page and it seems like it got a TB combat option last month. I'm wondering if such TB/RT hybrids (M&M6-9, W&W) warrant a separate category...

I'd say W&W and M&M6-9 are definitely more turn-based than real-time.
 

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Created a new category:

3) TACTICAL COMBAT Blobbers (1st Person Exploration Party-Based RPG's)

Albion
Amberstar (1992)
Ambermoon (1995)
Bard's Tale 4 (2018)
Dark Heart of Uukrul
Gold Box games
Realms of Arkania 1-3

The question is whether a broader Blobber Hybrids category is better, so it can include Xulima and Wasteland.

Now make a complete list of Anime (Non-Western) Blobbers.

Make it yourself, dude.
 

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The easiest way to poll it is in new posts (up to 100 entries each). That means that only "liked it" or "didn't like or didn't play" are the available choices. Then there is also the question how many votes should be available. As many as you want, or a limited amount?
Since you already have a list, it's quite easy to make a Google form. And if you want to avoid vote scams, you can add a text field for the voter to put in their Codex username and some sort of password, which he then has to post in the voting thread. This will ensure one vote per user and make it easy to weed out fake entries.
Polls are pointless in this case - we already know Xeen and Wiz8 will come on top, with the rest of M&Ms and later Wizardries occupying the rest of the Top15.

stranger of sword city has nonanime artstyle unless you choose to make it so in options...so its in?

Should probably be in the JRPG list, if anyone is up for creating one.
Why are you keeping Elminage and DarkSpire in then?

Now make a complete list of Anime (Non-Western) Blobbers.
aweigh already got you covered.
 

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3) TACTICAL COMBAT Blobbers (1st Person Exploration Party-Based RPG's)

Albion
Amberstar (1992)
Ambermoon (1995)
Dark Heart of Uukrul
Gold Box games
Realms of Arkania 1-3
Why did you omit Krondor/Antara?
Also, Drakhen. Though whether it could be called tactical is up for debate - it's combat is real-time and quite chaotic. But otherwise it fits - exploration is first-person and party members only appear on screen in combat encounters.
 

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
3) TACTICAL COMBAT Blobbers (1st Person Exploration Party-Based RPG's)
Ultimas fit this category, but only in dungeons. Are they in or out?

Oh, and Shadowkeep for the Apple II would go in the turn-based category, not that it would get any votes.
 

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Since you already have a list, it's quite easy to make a Google form. And if you want to avoid vote scams, you can add a text field for the voter to put in their Codex username and some sort of password, which he then has to post in the voting thread. This will ensure one vote per user and make it easy to weed out fake entries.

This is way too complicated for a simple poll.

Polls are pointless in this case - we already know Xeen and Wiz8 will come on top, with the rest of M&Ms and later Wizardries occupying the rest of the Top15.

If the vote in the Google form includes only three options (liked, didn't like, didn't play), then you get almost exactly the same result as a poll with two options here on the site (liked or didn't like/didn't play).

Why are you keeping Elminage and DarkSpire in then?

Both are non-anime. I also couldn't find any non-anime screenshots of Stranger in a Sword City. Can anyone post one?
 

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"Gold Box" games should be separated into the individual titles the way it was done for the Wizardry and Might & Magic series

Pool of Radiance
Curse of the Azure Bonds
Secret of the Silver Blades
Pools of Darkness
Champions of Krynn
Death Knights of Krynn
Dark Queen of Krynn
Gateway to the Savage Frontier
Treasures of the Savage Frontier

Buck Rogers: Coundown to Doomsday
Buck Rogers: matrix Cubed
 

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"Gold Box" games should be separated into the individual titles the way it was done for the Wizardry and Might & Magic series

Pool of Radiance
Curse of the Azure Bonds
Secret of the Silver Blades
Pools of Darkness
Champions of Krynn
Death Knights of Krynn
Dark Queen of Krynn
Gateway to the Savage Frontier
Treasures of the Savage Frontier

Buck Rogers: Coundown to Doomsday
Buck Rogers: matrix Cubed

Of course they will be. Thanks for the list.
 

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If the vote in the Google form includes only three options (liked, didn't like, didn't play), then you get almost exactly the same result as a poll with two options here on the site (liked or didn't like/didn't play).
No, because in such a system you count the average, not the total. Which means some good but less-known games might get a boost. On the other hand, I can't be the only person here who's not terribly fond of M&Ms :D
 

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Although in principle, you could just make two polls - one asking people to tick all the blobbers they played, another - to vote for those they liked. Then we can just divide the former by the latter and have a nice score.
 

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If the vote in the Google form includes only three options (liked, didn't like, didn't play), then you get almost exactly the same result as a poll with two options here on the site (liked or didn't like/didn't play).
No, because in such a system you count the average, not the total. Which means some good but less-known games might get a boost. On the other hand, I can't be the only person here who's not terribly fond of M&Ms :D

The averages of just three options won't be that different than the results of a poll with two options here.
 

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If the vote in the Google form includes only three options (liked, didn't like, didn't play), then you get almost exactly the same result as a poll with two options here on the site (liked or didn't like/didn't play).
No, because in such a system you count the average, not the total. Which means some good but less-known games might get a boost. On the other hand, I can't be the only person here who's not terribly fond of M&Ms :D

The averages of just three options won't be that different than the results of a poll with two options here.

Although in principle, you could just make two polls - one asking people to tick all the blobbers they played, another - to vote for those they liked. Then we can just divide the former by the latter and have a nice score.

I don't get it. How is that different from putting "didn't play" and "didn't like" together as one option?
Let's say you have Xeen, which 100 people played and 70 people liked; and Amberstar, which 10 people played and 8 people liked. In your version, Xeen will have a score of 70, while Amberstar will have a score of 8. In my version, Xeen will have a score of 70 (70% of people who played it, liked it), while Amberstar will have a score or 80 (80% of people who played it, liked it). Even if you correct it for Bayesian average which brings Amberstar's score to something like 65, it still results in much less difference between the two than in a popularity poll.
 

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Let's say you have Xeen, which 100 people played and 70 people liked; and Amberstar, which 10 people played and 8 people liked. In your version, Xeen will have a score of 70, while Amberstar will have a score of 8. In my version, Xeen will have a score of 70 (70% of people who played it, liked it), while Amberstar will have a score or 80 (80% of people who played it, liked it). Even if you correct it for Bayesian average which brings Amberstar's score to something like 65, it still results in much less difference between the two than in a popularity poll.

The advantage of a Google form vote is that we could create a more accurate ranking of blobbers. It has several disadvantages though:

1) Google form votes can be gamed, both by Codexers and non-Codexers.
2) It is more work to set it up and do the calculations afterwards.
3) Since there needs to be a cut-off date and it is an "inofficial" vote, I suspect that not as many would vote as in a poll here on the site.

A poll here on the site can run indefinitely and the results are visible right away. Also, if an obscure title has many votes, you can see that it is good - it's basically the same as doing calculations to find hidden gems.
 

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Let's say you have Xeen, which 100 people played and 70 people liked; and Amberstar, which 10 people played and 8 people liked. In your version, Xeen will have a score of 70, while Amberstar will have a score of 8. In my version, Xeen will have a score of 70 (70% of people who played it, liked it), while Amberstar will have a score or 80 (80% of people who played it, liked it). Even if you correct it for Bayesian average which brings Amberstar's score to something like 65, it still results in much less difference between the two than in a popularity poll.

The advantage of a Google form vote is that we could create a more accurate ranking of blobbers. It has several disadvantages though:

1) Google form votes can be gamed, both by Codexers and non-Codexers.
2) It is more work to set it up and do the calculations afterwards.
3) Since there needs to be a cut-off date and it is an "inofficial" vote, I suspect that not as many would vote as in a poll here on the site.

A poll here on the site can run indefinitely and the results are visible right away. Also, if an obscure title has many votes, you can see that it is good - it's basically the same as doing calculations to find hidden gems.
I've already posted about the alternative with two polls (one for "played", the other for "liked"). Same result, less work (except for calculating the averages). I really don't see a point of regular poll here - its results will be extremely predictable.
 

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I've already posted about the alternative with two polls (one for "played", the other for "liked"). Same result, less work (except for calculating the averages).

Not many people will vote in two polls about the same games. It needs to be just one.

I really don't see a point of regular poll here - its results will be extremely predictable.

If the point is to find hidden gems, then you get that in a regular poll too if you see a lot of people voting for a game that you haven't tried yet.
 

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I've already posted about the alternative with two polls (one for "played", the other for "liked"). Same result, less work (except for calculating the averages).

Not many people will vote in two polls about the same games. It needs to be just one.

I really don't see a point of regular poll here - its results will be extremely predictable.

If the point is to find hidden gems, then you get that in a regular poll too if you see a lot of people voting for a game that you haven't tried yet.
There are about 3 games on the list that I haven't tried because I didn't know about them. I just don't like popularity polls and generally find them useless.
 

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So Type A is supposed to be the "non-anime" version? It looks like just a different style of anime.
if you dont want it, say you dont want it in the poll. dont make excuses please. its unbecoming.
that aside, i would like to watch these anime that have this style. could you please share? i honestly think its the most stylish blobber out there.
 

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