Complete List of Western (Non-Anime) Blobbers - both RT and TB

[Lady_Error]

In order to do a proper poll on the best Western (non-anime) blobbers (as discussed in this thread), we need a list of all Western blobbers ever made. From what I've seen, it doesn't look like such a definitive list has ever been created.

I searched through the lists and suggestions from a couple previous blobber polls to get started:

https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/favorite-blobbers-dungeon-crawlers-poll.123516/
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.p...n-blobbers-after-2000-that-you-played.114993/
http://www.dungeoncrawlers.org/top-100/

1) TURN-BASED Western Blobbers (1st Person Party-Based RPG's)

7 Mages (2016)
Ancients 1 (1991)
Ancients 2 (1994)
Antares (1991, Amiga)
Bard's Tale Trilogy (1985, 1988, 1990, remake 2018)
Coldfire Keep (2014, looks interesting)
Conglomerate 451 (Early Access)
Dark Designs Series (1990-1994, mostly Apple II)
Dark Spire (2008, NDS)
Descend (2011, iOS)
Devil Whiskey (2003)
Don't Go Alone (1989)
Dragon Wars (1989)
Dungeons of Avalon (1991)
Elminage Gothic (2014)
Fate: Gates of Dawn (1991, Amiga, Atari ST)
Frayed Knights (2014)
Gates of Skeldal (1998)
GayBlade (1992)
Grimoire (2017)
Heroes of a Broken Land (2014, roguelike)
Legacy (2004)
Legend of Faerghail (1990)
Legends of Amberland (2019)
Legend of Candlewind (2015)
Might & Magic 1 (1986)
Might & Magic 2 (1988)
Might & Magic 3 (1991)
Might & Magic 4-5: World of Xeen (1993)
Might & Magic 6 (1998)
Might & Magic 7 (1999)
Might & Magic 8 (2000)
Might & Magic 9 (2002)
Might & Magic X (2014)
Operencia (2019, only Epic store so far)
Oubliette (1977, remake 2012)
Paper Sorcerer (2013)
Shadowkeep (1984, Apple)
Silvern Castle (1999, Apple)
Silversword (2011)
Spirit of Adventure (1991, Realms of Arkania precursor)
StarCrawlers (2017)
Swords and Sorcery: Underworld (2015)
Thunderscape (1995)
Undercroft (2009)
Yendorian Tales: Book 1, Chapter 2 (1996)
Yendorian Tales: Tyrants of Thaine (1997)
Whale's Voyage (1993)
Wizardry 1 (1981)
Wizardry 2 (1982)
Wizardry 3 (1983)
Wizardry 4 (1987)
Wizardry 5 (1988)
Wizardry 6 (1990)
Wizardry 7 (1992)
Wizardry 8 (2001)
Wizardry Empire 1 (1999)
Wizardry Empire 2 (2002)
Wizardry Empire 3 (2007)
Wizards & Warriors (2000, by DW Bradley)
Zavix Tower (2016, roguelike)

2) REAL-TIME Western Blobbers (1st Person Party-Based RPG's)

Abandoned Places 1 (1992)
Abandoned Places 2 (1993)
Aeon of Sands (2018)
Arakion (Early Access)
Black Crypt (1992)
Bloodwych (1989)
Captive 1 (1990, Amiga)
Captive 2 (1993, Amiga)
Cardhalia (2002)
City Beneath the Surface (1998)
Crystal Dragon (1994, Amiga)
Deep Paths (2016)
Demise: Rise Of The Ku'Tan (1999, RTwP)
Demise: Ascension (1999, RTwP)
Dungeons of Avalon (1991, Amiga)
Dungeon Kingdom (Early Access)
Dungeon of the Dragon Knight (2019)
Dungeon Master 1 (1987)
Dungeon Master 2 (1995)
Dungeon Master: Chaos Strikes Back (1989)
Evil's Doom (1996, Amiga)
Eye of the Beholder 1 (1991)
Eye of the Beholder 2 (1992)
Eye of the Beholder 3 (1993)
Fall of the Dungeon Guardians (2015, RTwP)
Heroes of Monkey Tavern (2016)
Haunted Dungeons (2017)
Hexx (1994, by Psygnosis)
Infernal Tome (1994)
Ishar Trilogy (1994)
Knightmare (1991, Amiga, Atari ST)
Lands of Lore (1993)
Le Maître des Âmes (1987)
Legend of Grimrock 1 (2012)
Legend of Grimrock 2 (2014)
Lords of Doom (1990)
Menzoberranzan (1993)
Minions of Mirth (2005)
Mordor - The Depths of Dejenol (1995)
Ravenloft 1: Strahd's Possession (1994)
Ravenloft 2: Stone Prophet (1995)
Rol Crusaders (1995, Spanish)
Stonekeep (1995, RTwP)
Walls of Illusion (1993, Atari ST)

3) TACTICAL COMBAT Blobbers (1st Person Exploration Party-Based RPG's)

Albion (1995)
Amberstar (1992)
Ambermoon (1995)
Bard's Tale 4 (2018)
Betrayal at Krondor (1993)
Betrayal in Antara (1997)
Crystals of Arborea (1990)
Dark Heart of Uukrul (1989)
Die Quelle von Naroth (1993, German)
Drakkhen (1989)
Gods: Lands of Infinity (2006)
Mars Saga / Mines of Titan
Perihelion (1993, Amiga)
Realms of Arkania 1 (1992)
Realms of Arkania 2 (1994)
Realms of Arkania 3 (1996)
Gold Box series:
Pool of Radiance (1988)
Curse of the Azure Bonds (1989)
Secret of the Silver Blades (1990)
Pools of Darkness (1991)
Gateway to the Savage Frontier (1991)
Treasures of the Savage Frontier (1992)
Champions of Krynn (1990)
Death Knights of Krynn (1991)
Dark Queen of Krynn (1992)
Buck Rogers: Coundown to Doomsday (1990)
Buck Rogers: Matrix Cubed (1992)
Forgotten Realms Unlimited Adventures (1993)

4) SINGLE CHARACTER Dungeon Crawlers (TURN-BASED)

7th Circle (2018)
Akalabeth (1980)
Alien Fires: 2099 AD (1987)
Alternate Reality: The City (1985)
Alternate Reality: The Dungeon (1987)
Circuit's Edge (1990)
Death Bringer (1989)
Dungeons of Legend (2019)
Geisterschiff (2018)
Keef The Thief (1989)
Orcs & Elves 1 (2006, mobile)
Orcs & Elves 2 (2007, mobile)
The Quest (2016)
QuestLord (2012, mobile)
Scarab of Ra (1987, Mac)
Shadow of Yserbius 1 (1991) / Medieval Lands (2019, Fan Remake)
Shadow of Yserbius 2: Fates of Twinion (1993)
Shadow of Yserbius 3: Ruins of Cawdor (1995)
Tumulus of Fen (2011, iOS)

5) SINGLE CHARACTER Dungeon Crawlers (REAL-TIME)

Amulets & Armor (1997)
Anvil of Dawn (1995)
Arx Fatalis (2002)
Asmodeus (1996, Czech)
Black Dawn 1 (1993, Amiga)
Black Dawn 2 (1994, Amiga)
Black Dawn 3 (1994, Amiga)
Black Dawn 4 (1995, Amiga)
Bloodfest (1995, Amiga)
Dark Horde (2009, mobile)
Dawn: A New Beginning (1996, Amiga)
Dawn: Champions of Dawn (1996, Amiga)
Deadly Dungeons (2014, Android)
Deathkeep (1995, 3DO)
Descent to Undermountain (1997)
Drawngeon (2019)
Dungeon Hack (1993)
Elvira 1 (1990)
Elvira 2 (1991)
Federation Quest / Spacewrecked (1990)
Hired Guns (1993)
Indeep: The Casual Dungeon Crawler (2017)
Inside World (1995, Win 3.x)
Kargon (1996, Amiga)
Knights of the Grail (1995, Czech)
Lands of Lore 2
Lands of Lore 3
Legions of Dawn (1995, Amiga)
Magic Island (1995, Amiga)
Nemesis - The Wizardry Adventure (1996)
Obitus (1991)
Parasite 1 (1995, Amiga)
Parasite 2 (1996, Amiga)
Revolt of Don's Knights (1997)
Ruzar: The Life Stone (2015)
Skarbnik (1995, Amiga, only in Polish)
Slayer (1994, 3DO)
The Keep (2014, 3DS)
The Legacy: Realm of Terror (1993)
Ultima Underworld 1 (1993)
Ultima Underworld 2 (1995)
Underworld Ascendant (2018)
Vaporum (2017)
Waxworks (1992)
Xenomorph (1990)

Anything else that is missing? Also, if someone wants to compile a separate list of JPRG's, go ahead.

 

[Sentinel]

Didn't know about Legends of Amberland, so thanks. Will check it out.

 

[Mustawd]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/408400/Swords_and_Sorcery__Underworld__Definitive_Edition/

Swords and Sorcery: Underworld - It’s Turn-based and an M&M-like.


https://store.steampowered.com/app/314120/Frayed_Knights_The_Skull_of_SmakhDaon/

Frayed Knights - It’s also Turn-based and an M&M-like.

 

[Grauken]

RT
Abandoned Places 1-2
Ishar: Legend of the Fortress
Ishar 2 Messengers of Doom
Ishar 3 The Seven Gates of Infinity
Knightmare
Menzoberranzan
Ravenloft 1-2
Ruzar the Lifestone
Vaporum

Sorta RT
Demise: Ascension
Demise: Rise of the ku'tan

TB
Devil Whiskey
Frayed Knights
Lawless Legends
Legend of Faerghail
Oubliette (remake with new graphics)
Yendorian Tales
StarCrawlers

Not really a blobber
Dungeons & Dragons: Warriors of the Eternal Sun
Mines of Titan: Mars Saga
Natuk

Anime TB blobber
Stranger of Sword City

 

[Mustawd]

Lady Error , you're missing:

Wasteland
Lords of Xulima

 

[Grauken]

These two are not blobbers, come on

 

[The Red Knight]

Crystals of Arborea - real time grid exploration (like Ishar), separate turn-based combat screen (chessboard-like)
Demise - RTwP
Gods - real time exploration, separate turn-based combat (like in 3D jRPGs)
Star Crawlers - turn-based grid exploration with a few real time elements, separate turn-based combat (like in jRPGs)
Stranger of Sword City - turn-based grid exploration, separate turn-based combat (like in jRPGs)

 

[Mustawd]

These two are not blobbers, come on

 

[Grauken]

The combat phase alone does not a blobber make

 

[Mustawd]

The combat phase alone does not a blobber make

Both games have blob movement though...what else do you need man!

If you say “puzzles” I’ll shoot you in the dick.

 

[Grauken]

The combat phase alone does not a blobber make

Both games have blob movement though...what else do you need man!

If you say “puzzles” I’ll shoot you in the dick.

If you see that as blob movement, then basically every jRPG has blob movement and a lot of older western CRPGs where you only see one character

I discount the Realms of Arkania trilogy and the Goldbox games as blobber for that very reason, right movement in exploration but wrong combat, for Wasteland and Xulima it's the reverse

 

[Mustawd]

western CRPGs where you only see one character

That’s the definition of blob movement though...

Goldbox Games and RoA games had tactical combat where positioning mattered. It’s easily discounted for that reason. LoX and Wasteland both are Western Crpgs with blob combat AND blob movement. As the 3D M&Ms showed, you don’t need grid based movement to be a blobber. Which means LoX mire than qualifies.

 

[The Red Knight]

That’s the definition of blob movement though...

In blobbers you don't see yourself for you are one with the blob.

You could try building your argument around Albion also being on the list and, outside of two long FPP dungeons and a bit of town wandering, it being primarily a top-down RPG (with all party members being visible in those sequences) with chessboard combat.

 

[Lady_Error]

It seems to be a similar question as whether action games with RPG-elements should have been included in the Top 100 RPG poll.

Do we just keep "pure blobbers" or include "partly blobbers" as well?

 

[AdolfSatan]

You could make an extra category for pseudoblobbers as well, but it'll probably end up bloating the list with games that are only marginally related and bringing an endless amount of whining. Better be efficient, draw a clear line, and put everything that doesn't fit the required criteria outside.

 

[Lady_Error]

Wasteland and Xulima do kind of qualify though, since both combat and movement are in a blob (even though the latter is not in 1st person).

Goldbox and Realms of Arkania should probably not qualify since the combat is completely non-blobber.

 

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[Ysaye]

The Dark Spire as a (based upon your examples) turn based Western Blobber.

To be honest you would be better off starting with the massive (over 800) blobber spreadsheet made by DRPG book which can be found at the link below and can be filtered by (amongst many things) combat type and language:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Dx3UoA-bARd4hpHK9gIZqdr9xdYjrJMftk1tKIYjDxo/edit?usp=sharing

 

[Incendax]

Wasteland is definitely a blobber.
Lords of Xulima is a pseudoblobber, since character positioning DOES matter a great deal. Far more than a simple “back rows can’t melee” like you might find in the early Bard’s Tale or whatever.

 

[The Red Knight]

Anything else that is missing (from the spreadsheet too):
Hexx: Heresy of the Wizard

 

[SniperHF]

Wasteland and Xulima do kind of qualify though, since both combat and movement are in a blob (even though the latter is not in 1st person).

Wasteland has party splitting, can you have a blobber with party splitting?
When I think blobber I think first person movement, I can see why that might not be a requirement but if it has non first person movement AND party splitting? Individual PCs can run away from combat without the rest of the group leaving, parties can be selected on the main menu and travel independently, Don't think it's a blobber.

Granted it's not a terribly useful feature of the game but it is there.

 

[The Red Knight]

can you have a blobber with party splitting?

Just disagreeing with the quoted part. For me blobbers = first person view too.

 

[octavius]

It seems to be a similar question as whether action games with RPG-elements should have been included in the Top 100 RPG poll.

Do we just keep "pure blobbers" or include "partly blobbers" as well?

I suggest including only "pure blobbers" (1PP, step based grid movement, abstract combat), and not games like Dark Heart of Uukrul and the GB games.

And Evil's Doom is real time.

Also add Silvern Castle (TB, Apple only) to the list.

 

[Martyr]

Demise is actually RTwP, not pure real time, maybe you can mark that.
there's also "Dungeon of the Dragon Knight", a Grimrock-clone.
The Fall of the Dungeon Guardians is RTwP
The Legend of Candlewind: Nights and Candles, Thunderscape and Gates of Skeldal are turn based.

 

[Fowyr]

Thunderscape had Wizardry-like combat and thus TB.
Yendorian Tales is Ultima clone, not a blobber, Yendorian Tales 2 and 3 are M&M3-5 clones and thus are blobbers.