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CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

Trithne

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It identifies as an RPG. For a while it didn't. It's just trying out identities until it finds itself, you bigot.
 

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It's worth pointing out that CD Projekt Red hasn't stopped calling Cyberpunk 2077 an RPG entirely, as some storefronts have included the descriptor as a tag, but it seems to be embracing it more now that you can finally change your hair.

Savage. :lol:
 

ind33d

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the released game is already too fucked up to be an rpg, they should just copy the systems from San Andreas
 

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Strap Yourselves In
Cyberpunk 2077 is an open-world, action-adventure RPG
I've heard of open world RPGs, action RPGs, RPGs, adventure games, but never of open-world action-adventure RPGs.
Isn't it all of those things though? Is every open-world game action? Is every RPG an open-world game?

At least they didn't call it an "immersive sim" - though I'm sure someone did. Thank Warren Spector for that meaningless non-word.
 

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Cyberpunk 2077 is an open-world, action-adventure RPG
I've heard of open world RPGs, action RPGs, RPGs, adventure games, but never of open-world action-adventure RPGs.
Isn't it all of those things though? Is every open-world game action? Is every RPG an open-world game?

At least they didn't call it an "immersive sim" - though I'm sure someone did. Thank Warren Spector for that meaningless non-word.

it’s not an adventure game and it’s even less of an rpg than witcher
 

Gargaune

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Cyberpunk 2077 is an open-world, action-adventure RPG
I've heard of open world RPGs, action RPGs, RPGs, adventure games, but never of open-world action-adventure RPGs.
"Action-Adventure RPG" isn't a new term, I remember it being quite common some twenty years back, it's just grown to be more commonly contracted to Action-RPG these days. Cyberpunk 2077 fits the bill, combining the characteristics of Action-Adventure games, where the player's physical aptitudes for reflexes, perception and precision drive a single character through a focused plot, with those of an RPG, relying on the player's abstract tactical thinking for progression and reactivity. New Vegas, Gothic, Deus Ex and Mass Effect are all Action-Adventure RPGs. The former two also tick the Open-World box, whereas the latter two are, separately, also an Immersive Sim and a Stand-Around-In-A-Fucking-Elevator Simulator, respectively.

A lot of the Codex's classification pushback around Cyberpunk 2077 stems from this nasty habit of treating genre descriptors as quality indicators, "RPG" in particular, when bad RPGs are as real as anything else. For example, Dragon Age II is a terrible RPG and a cRPG that is terrible. Cyberpunk scores very poorly on its RPG components, but that doesn't mean they aren't there.
 

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It's pretty retarded since they designed the world to seem like a satire of a thoroughly pornified society.

Then they do this, and you realise it's not a satire.
The world they are depicting, is the world we are going to have in 2050, even in Poland.
The game exhibits what the WEF reserve to us.
Max-Vaxxed, Max-chipped, max-pornified, max-controlled, etc...
 

Trithne

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It's pretty retarded since they designed the world to seem like a satire of a thoroughly pornified society.

Then they do this, and you realise it's not a satire.
The world they are depicting, is the world we are going to have in 2050, even in Poland.
The game exhibits what the WEF reserve to us.
Max-Vaxxed, Max-chipped, max-pornified, max-controlled, etc...

And at the end of it all, MaxTac.
 

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From Reddit:

Verdict:

Phantom Liberty is often Cyberpunk 2077 at its very best. A gripping narrative complete with great characters adds another dimension to the open world RPG, while the main mission and side quest design remains top notch throughout. It's a tremendous expansion that delivers a truly memorable experience.

Pros:

  • Gripping story moments
  • Fantastic characters
  • Some top-tier missions
  • Intense boss fights
  • Dogtown art direction is superb
  • Amazing soundtrack
  • Dynamic events are a great addition
Cons:

  • One particular mission is a bit of a drag
  • Shallow dialogue choices at times
  • Some minor bugs
Edit: Review has been taken down apparently. Will update the link once it's up again.

Score: 9/10

Playtime: ~30h

Edit 2: Alternative link to review (huge shoutout to u/It_aint_broken!)
 

Child of Malkav

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I looked at the new skills and....this is supposed to be impressive or something?
MMO tier skills: activate a skill in order to trigger a passive effect that gives increased passive stats that lasts for 10 seconds and while active spam certain abilities.
This is WoW class design. But then again this is CP 2077 so I'm not sure I expected anything anyway. Not anything good that's for sure.
Can you at least fuck the president in the DLC?
 

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Starfield's release seems to make Phantom Liberty so good by comparison. I mean essentially it's still the same old CP2077 with a new lick of paint, yet I'm actually stoked to play a relatively competently made mindless action game after that piece of shit.
 

Tyrr

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Starfield's release seems to make Phantom Liberty so good by comparison. I mean essentially it's still the same old CP2077 with a new lick of paint, yet I'm actually stoked to play a relatively competently made mindless action game after that piece of shit.
Compared to Starfield, even CP2077 1.0 looks good. I already watched several Starfield vs. Cyberpunk 2077 comparisons, made to make fun of Starfield.
 

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MMO tier skills: activate a skill in order to trigger a passive effect that gives increased passive stats that lasts for 10 seconds and while active spam certain abilities.
This is WoW class design.
Personally I blame consoles for this kind of WoW cancer spreading, because there are not enough buttons to do proper active skills. Borderlands pioneered this approach in cuntsole games, as you had just one "class special abbility" button but of course they needed to put in skill trees.... and we're here.
 

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Starfield's release seems to make Phantom Liberty so good by comparison. I mean essentially it's still the same old CP2077 with a new lick of paint, yet I'm actually stoked to play a relatively competently made mindless action game after that piece of shit.
Compared to Starfield, even CP2077 1.0 looks good. I already watched several Starfield vs. Cyberpunk 2077 comparisons, made to make fun of Starfield.
I mean they are both kinda bad for different reasons but yeah ok
 
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It looks better than 2 years ago when i finished it.
CDPR were fucking morons to release it in 2019. it was obvious that the game was at least 1,5-2 years away from being done.
A delayed game will eventually be good only if you actually have people capable of making it good. Delays won't change anything if it's shit by design.
You can only delay a project for so long before you need to release it no matter what, people need to get paid. What really harmed them was the last gen console versions being released simultaneously, and that was probably out of necessity too. I think this is what happened to Starfield and likely will happen with the next elder scrolls, too.
 

Steezus

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Starfield's release seems to make Phantom Liberty so good by comparison. I mean essentially it's still the same old CP2077 with a new lick of paint, yet I'm actually stoked to play a relatively competently made mindless action game after that piece of shit.
Compared to Starfield, even CP2077 1.0 looks good. I already watched several Starfield vs. Cyberpunk 2077 comparisons, made to make fun of Starfield.
I mean they are both kinda bad for different reasons but yeah ok

Cyberpunk is at least engaging from a story perspective and has fun gameplay.

Starfield is just dated, boring and well, not good, lol.

I honestly don't think those games are even on the same playing field.
 

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