Are we an RPG Discussion website or a Free Speech website?

[Burning Bridges]

DU could just add "The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact" under the "Doesnt scale to your level" thingy.

The idea is good. Just like Bruno Ganz was not prosecuted for saying things a certain guy had said, you could pretend that everyone is acting.

But a site where you purport to play yourself is just the next step into schizophrenia. On top of that I think it wouldn't help DU if he claimed to be running an online asylum, because they would say he isn't qualified for it. Someone with a PhD in psychiatry could qualify though. Having a beard like Oliver Sacks would help too.

One could of course call it a self-help group for coitophobic autists through psychodrama and roleplaying games. Hm maybe that would convince a few people. But a broef survey into the past history of the codex would reveal that it is just a dumb idea.

 

[Storyfag]

But a site where you purport to play yourself is just the next step into schizophrenia.

This would be only fitting, given the nature of the Codex. Also it'd perhaps be a step BACK on the schizo ladder.

 

[Haba]

I like how the biggest proponents of their branch "free speech" are also the least productive members. Funny how it goes.

 

[Lemming42]

Kiwifarms was barely usable for the past 2 months because your tranny friend faked his death and paid other trannies to DDOS them. KF is also hit with legal threats all the time, and the site's owner actually studied law to better deal with them. Pretty much everything about kiwifarms is built around minimizing the power of the authorities and being able to poast retarded shit, not facilitating high-quality discussion. The average thread there is either laughing at a dog-fucking pedophile who boiled their hamster, or GD-tier political discussion.

You're never going to get consistent high quality discussion on an internet forum, at least not one based around a hobby, like RPGs, or calling DSP a fat sofa masturbator.

KiwiFarms at least is funny - due to the topics being discussed, the drama generated, and the hopeless retardation of much of the userbase (which is, ultimately, the main appeal of reading a forum).

 

[dacencora]

90% of all the sjws in here are kwans

You're sure? The G*rmans seem to be quite vocal.

Fanta is a major SJW. He just likes to sperg about American exceptionalism all the time. Rent free!

 

[Storyfag]

I like how the biggest proponents of their branch "free speech" are also the least productive members. Funny how it goes.

How do you measure this productivity? Would you, for example, say that Kalin's contributions to the Playground were not productive?

Further, why would or should this "productivity" be a factor to consider at all?

 

[Zombra]

Why do some people here not realise that there is no such thing as restrained moderation.

Think about your favorite bar or club. Did you ever see anyone get thrown out? Is it still your favorite bar? Why?

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

If I can't say my favorite cowardly words here anonymously people won't know how tough and cool I wish I was. Fucking pathetic.

Set an example for us and self-dox, pussy.

 

[Parsifarka]

In the Codex's case, lack of moderation meant that dumbfuck nazi LARPers with identical views took over parts of the site and, worst of all, bled their autism into the forums intended to be used for actual gaming discussion.

That's roundly false. Most of the userbase shares the core idea that days are evil and authorities are driving us towards a nightmarish world, but this is agreed on by people who are at each others throats on any other issue: from sedevacantist Catholics to radical Calvinists, from Marxist-Leninists to nationalsocialists, absolute monarchists and libertarian anarchists, CIA agents and Guoanbu workers, Russian imperialists and Manifest Destiny supporters, theocrats and atheists... the best retard of each house is here.
Of course, to those who don't share the contempt for the laws and customs of our time everything here appears as a single homogenous blob of hostility (even though most of the time we are fighting among ourselves) but that's a fault to be charged on the kool-aid fueled mind, not on the Codex's supposed lack of diversity -which is a radically false myth, nowhere else have I seen such active discussion among people from so varied backgrounds and ideologies.

And that's not talking about the equally intense RPG discussion, the ever-going carnage between real-timers and turn-based connoisseurs, Western apologists and JRPG activists, combatfags and stortyfags... who only agree in despising RTwP and ugly virtual women -reasons enough to group them as a single entity of neonazi g4m3r h8 sp33k, I reckon.
All this to say that such vivid and colourful discussion would be lost together with the freedom to be mean, for it is precisely that which holds such a wide array of retards together.

 

[Black]

If I can't say my favorite cowardly words here anonymously people won't know how tough and cool I wish I was. Fucking pathetic.

How to say you're a zoomer without saying you're a zoomer.
One of the most important rules of thumb of the internet used to be don't post your personal information online.

 

[Ehrenmann]

Why do some people here not realise that there is no such thing as restrained moderation.

Think about your favorite bar or club. Did you ever see anyone get thrown out? Is it still your favorite bar? Why?

There is no such thing as a restrained moderation of politically controversial topics. Allowing "wrong" opinions (and words) automatically marks you as their proponent. DU is a nazi overlord in their eyes. It's either censoring everything or moving the ownership elsewhere.

 

[Zombra]

There is no such thing as a restrained moderation of politically controversial topics. Allowing "wrong" opinions (and words) automatically marks you as their proponent. DU is a nazi overlord in their eyes. It's either censoring everything or moving the ownership elsewhere.

Simplistic all-or-nothing thinking makes you sound like a 2nd grader. 0 and 100 aren't the only numbers on the scale.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

There is no such thing as a restrained moderation of politically controversial topics. Allowing "wrong" opinions (and words) automatically marks you as their proponent. DU is a nazi overlord in their eyes. It's either censoring everything or moving the ownership elsewhere.

Simplistic all-or-nothing thinking makes you sound like a 2nd grader. 0 and 100 aren't the only numbers on the scale.

They're the only ones that matter

 

[Apostle Hand]

another shitty thread

 

[Ehrenmann]

There is no such thing as a restrained moderation of politically controversial topics. Allowing "wrong" opinions (and words) automatically marks you as their proponent. DU is a nazi overlord in their eyes. It's either censoring everything or moving the ownership elsewhere.

Simplistic all-or-nothing thinking makes you sound like a 2nd grader. 0 and 100 aren't the only numbers on the scale.

You are right the australian government is going to carefully evaluate if the opinions of codex users are politely racist or impolitely racist.

 

[dacencora]

There is no such thing as a restrained moderation of politically controversial topics. Allowing "wrong" opinions (and words) automatically marks you as their proponent. DU is a nazi overlord in their eyes. It's either censoring everything or moving the ownership elsewhere.

Simplistic all-or-nothing thinking makes you sound like a 2nd grader. 0 and 100 aren't the only numbers on the scale.

What’s the reputation of RPGCodex again?

 

[Ranselknulf]

There is no such thing as a restrained moderation of politically controversial topics. Allowing "wrong" opinions (and words) automatically marks you as their proponent. DU is a nazi overlord in their eyes. It's either censoring everything or moving the ownership elsewhere.

Simplistic all-or-nothing thinking makes you sound like a 2nd grader. 0 and 100 aren't the only numbers on the scale.

You also make it sound like moderation doesn't exist on the site already.

The most rabidly retarded and racist people generally end-up banned for one reason or another with the current codex moderation policies.

Sometimes the codex moderators end up laughing at them also by prosperizing them and such.

Moving the ownership elsewhere sounds like a quest to reach out to the Talibans or time-lost Amazonian tribes.

At least the CIA will give us all free AK-47s and Chevy trucks.

 

[Tacgnol]

The most rabidly retarded and racist people generally end-up banned for one reason or another with the current codex moderation policies.

Sometimes the codex moderators end up laughing at them also by prosperizing them and such.

It's always been the way on the Dex.

People get fucked with as a "subtle" warning to tone it down. If they carry on, like Kalin for instance, they eventually get banned.

They usually get a lot of chances to self-moderate before that happens though.

You have to be reallllly edgy to get to the perma ban point.

 

[Darkwind]

Parsifarka already blew your argument to ribbons above but let me pile on because you are a special kind of moral relativist lefty try-hard faggot that needs even more beatings so hopefully you'll fuck off back to Kiwifarms permanently.

but over the past several years it's devolved into being a hugbox for mentally retarded people to shit themselves over topics such as the existence of black people and the existence of pink or blue hair dye. This is boring as hell because it's the same hobby horse topic bullshit day in day out, but also, as others have said, the neverending culture war circlejerk of infinite tedium has driven away people who just want to talk about games - ie people who should form the bulk of the userbase.

I'm sure this has nothing to do with the fact that EVERY other place that ISN'T about black people and blue hair dye has vanished off the face of the earth. And those who just want to be left alone to take the piss w/o moderation have fewer and fewer places left to do that. Not like the ratio of places with draconian moderation to true open free speech is something like 99% to 1% or anything, right? Just pure cohen-cidence that Codex has become reactionary in nature. Not like anything caused it. It just kind of happened spontaneously, amirite?

This seems to happen with any free speech place on the internet - eventually, one group of ideologues run it over and do their best to make it unusable for everyone else. Tumblr had no moderation back in the day, which is how it eventually became a bizarre hall of mirrors where teenagers managed to indoctrinate each other into batshit-mental belief systems which many of them are probably still trying to work their way through mentally today.

So let's assume your BS was true for a moment-- there is one place left where 'ideologues' who are NOT of a decidedly leftist / marxist / progressive bent have 'run over' a forum. So what? So a drop of solace in the ocean of woke fuckery, but you can't tolerate even a little dissent can you? That is the problem of every shitlib NPC robot everywhere. It causes your programming to short-circuit badly when people are not marching in ideological lockstep.

In the Codex's case, lack of moderation meant that dumbfuck nazi LARPers with identical views took over parts of the site and, worst of all, bled their autism into the forums intended to be used for actual gaming discussion.

Any credible argument you may have had just shit the bed because you are totally and transparently paint your bias here. Anyone that doesn't support total cultural destruction and the rise of degeneracy as the norm or complete population replacement is a dumbfuck nazi, got it. Get thee back to Reddit, post haste... p.s. Your name is the most fitting I've seen in a long time 'Lemming', truth in advertising and all that, innit?

 

[Zombra]

You also make it sound like moderation doesn't exist on the site already.

No!! The Dex has no moderation! Never has! If it did this would be RPGWatch by now! Free speech!! Free speech!!

 

[Jaedar]

It is kinda hard to escape that what makes the codex different from something like rpgwatch is very linked to DU's commitment to free speech. That being said, I remember that community norms used to be tighter about keeping politics to GD and RPG discussions just being candid places where you could call someone a retard if they made a retarded argument. It was a good way to keep out the riff raff in the old days.

 

[Lemming42]

I'm sure this has nothing to do with the fact that EVERY other place that ISN'T about black people and blue hair dye has vanished off the face of the earth. And those who just want to be left alone to take the piss w/o moderation have fewer and fewer places left to do that. Not like the ratio of places with draconian moderation to true open free speech is something like 99% to 1% or anything, right? Just pure cohen-cidence that Codex has become reactionary in nature. Not like anything caused it. It just kind of happened spontaneously, amirite?

So let's assume your BS was true for a moment-- there is one place left where 'ideologues' who are NOT of a decidedly leftist / marxist / progressive bent have 'run over' a forum. So what? So a drop of solace in the ocean of woke fuckery, but you can't tolerate even a little dissent can you? That is the problem of every shitlib NPC robot everywhere. It causes your programming to short-circuit badly when people are not marching in ideological lockstep.

Any credible argument you may have had just shit the bed because you are totally and transparently paint your bias here. Anyone that doesn't support total cultural destruction and the rise of degeneracy as the norm or complete population replacement is a dumbfuck nazi, got it. Get thee back to Reddit,
post haste... p.s. Your name is the most fitting I've seen in a long time 'Lemming', truth in advertising and all that, innit?

I said that autistic ideologues force their ideology into every thread, you prove me wrong by starting a rant about "total cultural destruction and the rise of degeneracy" and "population replacement". Literally can't help yourself.

This is pretty much exactly what I mean - this used to be a site for gaming discussion with a few brainrotted IDpol-obsessed dumbfucks on the side. Nowadays it's the inverse - it's filled with people who are so deep into the terminal stage of obsession that they physically can't stop themselves from dragging their boring half-formed views into everything, and any actual discussion about gaming is a treat on the side, if you're lucky. Your culture war is tedious and your obsession with identity politics is absolutely mind-numbing. I categorically don't give a shit about "population replacement".

Once again, this site often acts as a mirror image of ResetERA, only the IDpol obsession of many Codex users is of a different flavour. Regardless, IDpol has to be inserted into all topics at all times, and anyone who either disagrees or even just points out that this crap has overtaken the site is declared a fascist nazi (if on RetardERA) or a "marxist shitlib NPC robot" (if on Codex).

 

[Fedora Master]

90% of all the sjws in here are kwans

You're sure? The G*rmans seem to be quite vocal.

Fanta is a major SJW. He just likes to sperg about American exceptionalism all the time. Rent free!

Fanta is the Yang to Rustys Ying.

 

[Alex]

It is kinda hard to escape that what makes the codex different from something like rpgwatch is very linked to DU's commitment to free speech. That being said, I remember that community norms used to be tighter about keeping politics to GD and RPG discussions just being candid places where you could call someone a retard if they made a retarded argument. It was a good way to keep out the riff raff in the old days.

Any increase in political discussion (by which I mean conspicuously political discussion; there is a good argument to be made that all discussion is somehow political) only mirrors an equal increase of blatant politicising of the games and the industry itself, though.

 

[Fedora Master]

can we split the retards off into their own forum?

We already do.